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Should Cotto still be #8 P4P?
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Originally posted by Joshua Clottey View PostI still think he is a top fighter despite his loss. When you talk about the best fighters today, you have to mention Miguel Cotto.
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Originally posted by danc1984 View PostYeah Hatton is in my top 10 right now, he deserves to be ahead of Cotto. Hatton is constrained in terms of his p4p status because he would get beat by all the top guys at 147 and there is noone at 140 that he can fight that would significantly boost his status.
I'm slightly less positive on his future, in that I agree most top WW's beat him, and furthermore so will another bigger guy in ODL unfortunately.
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Originally posted by egreezy View PostHe is currently #8 having gone 1-1 this year only defeating Alfonso Gomez and being stopped by Margarito. When fighters like Joshua Clottey, Vic Darchinyan, Paul Williams, Nonito Donaire, Chad Dawson, and Ricky Hatton all had better years then him. But are still behind him when he is @ 8. Pavlik and Taylor both 1-1 this year were not stopped.
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The onlyt one who could be P4P over Cotto is Williams and is because he have fought in 3 different weight classes and KO his opponents. People here are mistaking P4P. P4P criteria should be Resume and quality wins and difficulty in the division you are at. Cotto should be ahead of all those guys. 1 Loss doesnt drop you out of the list unless you where 9 or 10. POeople compare Cottos loss to Hattons loss. Just look at the opposition that Floyd beat before fighing HAtton and look at the opposition that Margarito fought before Cotto. Margarito fought way better opposition than Floy at WW. So losing to Margarito can not be worst that losing to Floyd in that particular moment. Again Hatton and Cotto deserve to be top 10 P4P, but Cotto should be higher, Dawson and Donaire and all those guys listed are not P4P quality yet. The havent done enough.
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Originally posted by egreezy View PostHe is currently #8 having gone 1-1 this year only defeating Alfonso Gomez and being stopped by Margarito. When fighters like Joshua Clottey, Vic Darchinyan, Paul Williams, Nonito Donaire, Chad Dawson, and Ricky Hatton all had better years then him. But are still behind him when he is @ 8. Pavlik and Taylor both 1-1 this year were not stopped.
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And to add Darcinyan Ko'd p4per Mijares one pf the more impressing wins. These fights were domination against pretty good competition...
Clottey-Judah
Dawson-Tarver
Donaire-Mthalane
Hatton-Malignaggi
Taylor-Lacy
Williams-Quintana/Phillips
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I had 3 guys on the list that should be higher on the p4p list than cotto.. I had Ricky Hatton who beat paulie and lazcano, chad dawson, who took out tarver and glen johnson, and paul williams, who even though lost earlier in the year he avenged his loss by ko and got back his welterweight belt, koed a bum at middleweight, and took a belt and junior middleweight.. what has cotto done this year? beat gomez, who is a bum or average fighter at best and got tko by margarito.. sorry cotto if u were to be on my p4p list u would be at 10
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