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    The ol' Rooney & Tyson falling out

    All the years of media Tyson did and never even mentioned Rooney. He has talked about everyone except for Rooney who is considered to be one of the most important figures in his career. It doesn't add up.

    All I've heard over the years about who fired him, why Rooney sued him etc. are more like rumours. When you do find some parts of info it only gets more complicated.

    All I can find is this 1996 New York Times article. Tyson said he fired Rooney over comments he made about his gold digger. I'm really wondering what exactly he said. Also I did not know that Rooney sued him for such a large amount, much more than I thought.

    MIKE TYSON, in lengthy testimony in his former trainer's lawsuit against the heavyweight champion, yesterday denied ever offering KEVIN ROONEY a career-long contract.

    Tyson said he fired Rooney after the trainer's comments about Tyson's former wife, ROBIN GIVENS, during a television interview. ''I thought that was betrayal,'' Tyson said during his five hours on the stand in Federal court in Albany.

    Despite that, Tyson said he considered rehiring Rooney -- at least until being sued by him -- and that he considered Rooney was like a brother to him. ''Even right now, I'm not mad at Kevin,'' Tyson said.

    Rooney, who was fired in 1988, is suing the boxer for $49 million in past and projected earnings. While admitting he had no written contract, Rooney contends that Tyson's mentor, Cus D'Amato, who died in 1985, intended for the trainer to handle Tyson throughout his career.

    Tyson, while frequently admitting he used to take little interest in his legal and business affairs, firmly said he had no written contract with Rooney. He explained that he directed a former manager, JIM JACOBS, to say in an interview that Rooney would be his trainer as long as he kept fighting because he wanted to defend the trainer at a time his skills were being questioned.
    There's also a video of the post-Spinks press conference where you can see and hear Rooney bickering with Don King. There was some tension.

    I kind of had it with Tyson crying like a baby about Cus in every interview, denying sexually assaulting Teddy's niece etc. but he won't even mention Rooney, ever.

    They say he's still out there in the catskills training youngsters.

    #2
    Rooney meant well when he badmouthed Givens, he was just trying to look out for Mike.

    But Tyson being young and in love didn't take it well and their relationship soured.

    Last I heard Rooney's health wasn't good. He was in the beginning stages of dementia.

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      #3
      - -Rooney and Tyson a boxing team made in heaven, but nobody could save Tyson once the gold digger and King got their poisonous claws and fangs sunk into him.

      Before prison he had a retirement security fund worth at least $50 mil. When he came out of prison, he was worth zilch, the only reason he kept fighting.

      Sorry to hear Kev being ill. Mike seems to have had the worse of the turmoil, yet survived in better shape than Roony.

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        #4
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
        Rooney meant well when he badmouthed Givens, he was just trying to look out for Mike.
        Yeah, do you know what was said though?

        And Tyson obviously used this as an excuse to get rid of Rooney. He was already brainwashed by Don King and his anti-white narrative. Tyson being the idiot that he is was not gonna keep a white guy as his main trainer no matter how well Kevin might have played along. He paid for it though, one way or another no matter how bad he screwed Rooney over.

        Unlike what Tyson fans might have tried to tell everyone, he is not an honest guy. He was and is a liar who will change stories to make himself look like less of a fool. Just recently he did an interview with Graham Bensinger about Teddy Atlas and he's still denying that Teddy put a gun on his head because he sexually assaulted his 12 year old niece. In older interviews he did admit that it was exactly about that.

        So even if Tyson is asked about Rooney I don't expect him to be honest and admit that he screwed it all up. He will always be the victim in his pathetic mind. Oh Desiree Washington ****d me, not the other way around. Oh Teddy did that because he was jealous of me and Cus. Oh I fired Rooney because he said something bad about my wife. Oh that wife? I never beat her ever, oh but I'll admit that I did on the Oprah show. Tyson is a phony.

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          #5
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
          - -Rooney and Tyson a boxing team made in heaven, but nobody could save Tyson once the gold digger and King got their poisonous claws and fangs sunk into him.
          No babying for Tyson here. He did it all to himself(and others). He was anything but an angel and he knew what he was doing. He was not a victim.

          Sorry to hear Kev being ill. Mike seems to have had the worse of the turmoil, yet survived in better shape than Roony.
          Rooney is a man of principles. A man who was a credit to his city by helping the youth prosper. Apparently he's had his own demons with alcohol struggles but it's clear he's in the right. Tyson had everything, threw it all away and blamed everyone else and I could go on and on about his crimes and screw ups. I don't wish harm on either of the two but Rooney should have been the one in better health.

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            #6
            Originally posted by BKM- View Post
            Yeah, do you know what was said though?

            And Tyson obviously used this as an excuse to get rid of Rooney. He was already brainwashed by Don King and his anti-white narrative. Tyson being the idiot that he is was not gonna keep a white guy as his main trainer no matter how well Kevin might have played along. He paid for it though, one way or another no matter how bad he screwed Rooney over.

            Unlike what Tyson fans might have tried to tell everyone, he is not an honest guy. He was and is a liar who will change stories to make himself look like less of a fool. Just recently he did an interview with Graham Bensinger about Teddy Atlas and he's still denying that Teddy put a gun on his head because he sexually assaulted his 12 year old niece. In older interviews he did admit that it was exactly about that.

            So even if Tyson is asked about Rooney I don't expect him to be honest and admit that he screwed it all up. He will always be the victim in his pathetic mind. Oh Desiree Washington ****d me, not the other way around. Oh Teddy did that because he was jealous of me and Cus. Oh I fired Rooney because he said something bad about my wife. Oh that wife? I never beat her ever, oh but I'll admit that I did on the Oprah show. Tyson is a phony.
            Rooney basically said the truth, that Givens and her bitch mom were gold diggers trying to get at Mike's money. Bill Cayton had set it up so that only Tyson could take money out of his account and the two cvnts were trying to change that (which if memory serves they succeeded in doing.)

            Mike was a young man who adored his new bride and felt that this was a betrayal by Rooney who he viewed as almost like a brother. If you've ever been in love with a bad woman, or been around anyone who has, you know exactly how that dynamic plays out. He sided with his girl and Rooney was out.

            Tyson inflicted a lot of damage on himself throughout his life and he has no one else to blame for most of it. But in this particular instance I do feel sympathy for him as he was clearly taken advantage of. It's likely what sent him into a tailspin for the rest of his career.
            Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 12-29-2019, 11:34 AM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              Mike was a young man who adored his new bride and felt that this was a betrayal by Rooney who he viewed as almost like a brother. If you've ever been in love with a bad woman, or been around anyone who has, you know exactly how that dynamic plays out. He sided with his girl and Rooney was out.
              Adored her despite all the beatings he gave her? I guess that's one of those "Tyson is a complex person" type of thing I just don't understand according to his fans.

              But back to the point, if it was such an abusive relationship then he must have already known something wasn't right about her and Rooney was on to something.

              No, like I said he used that as an excuse to get rid of his white devil trainer. If he admitted the truth about joining his black brother Don King and was convinced by him to dump Rooney, the responsibility would fall back on Mike Tyson himself but he can't do that, can he? He's a victim, always. Woo is me. Tyson the permanent victim, it's everybody else except him. I'm surprised he hasn't claimed that Teddy's 12 year old niece lead him on.

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                #8
                Originally posted by BKM- View Post
                Adored her despite all the beatings he gave her? I guess that's one of those "Tyson is a complex person" type of thing I just don't understand according to his fans.

                But back to the point, if it was such an abusive relationship then he must have already known something wasn't right about her and Rooney was on to something.

                No, like I said he used that as an excuse to get rid of his white devil trainer. If he admitted the truth about joining his black brother Don King and was convinced by him to dump Rooney, the responsibility would fall back on Mike Tyson himself but he can't do that, can he? He's a victim, always. Woo is me. Tyson the permanent victim, it's everybody else except him. I'm surprised he hasn't claimed that Teddy's 12 year old niece lead him on.
                From what I've heard about Mike recently, the only stuff he still doesn't admit to is his sexual assaults of Atlas' niece and **** of Desiree Washington actually. Have you ever seen his one man show? It aired as an HBO special. He mentioned stuff like robbing people, being a thug and bully as a kid and that he shouldn't have listened to Don King. He seems to hate him now. Just wish he would come clean about those things too.

                I wouldn't wish losing a daughter on anyone but he seems to be happily married now, at least.

                As for sexual assault of Atlas' niece, are we talking actual penetration, attempted **** or just beating her up?

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                  #9
                  He's talked about Teddy more than a few times, but zip about Rooney.

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                    #10
                    I thought that separation made Tyson worse.

                    Thanks to Don King.

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