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    If you watch Joe Louis fights you know he had a crushing left hook, Frazier dropped Ali with the left hook, If I remember right so did Henry Cooper, Joe would win 2/3 fights with Ali.

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      Originally posted by BudWX View Post
      If you watch Joe Louis fights you know he had a crushing left hook, Frazier dropped Ali with the left hook, If I remember right so did Henry Cooper, Joe would win 2/3 fights with Ali.


      Exactly! Louis was NEVER out of a fight!

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        Louis wins
        by brutal knockout
        Louis would never lost to someone like leon spinks

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          Originally posted by cuzfozzy View Post
          Louis wins
          by brutal knockout
          Louis would never lost to someone like leon spinks
          LMAO, neon leon fought an old out of his prime ali.

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            Originally posted by cuzfozzy View Post
            Louis wins
            by brutal knockout
            Louis would never lost to someone like leon spinks

            In fantasy match up, it sould be 1938 Louis vs 1967 Ali.

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              Ali was old by the standards then ... Foreman won the belt at 42
              I think Ali lost to LEon when he was 33?

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                Originally posted by cuzfozzy View Post
                Ali was old by the standards then ... Foreman won the belt at 42
                I think Ali lost to LEon when he was 33?

                36, and way past his prime. Ali won the rematch though.

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                  Ali by KO!!! Louis always had trouble with movers, and nobody moved as well as Ali. Also, Ali had deceptive power, and greater speed than anybody Joe ever faced. Louis was also very one dimensional, basically a superb by the books type of fighter, where as Ali wrote the book as he went.

                  Ali would head hunt and dizzy Louis until he finally collapsed much like Bonavena did. But he would make a pretty good fight out of it.

                  Like Ali says, " What's this about Joe Louis beating me? Slow-moving shuffling Joe Louis beat me? He may hit hard, but that don't mean nothing if you can't find nothing to hit. "

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                    Originally posted by alishuffle View Post
                    Ali by KO!!! Louis always had trouble with movers, and nobody moved as well as Ali. Also, Ali had deceptive power, and greater speed than anybody Joe ever faced. Louis was also very one dimensional, basically a superb by the books type of fighter, where as Ali wrote the book as he went.

                    Ali would head hunt and dizzy Louis until he finally collapsed much like Bonavena did. But he would make a pretty good fight out of it.

                    Like Ali says, " What's this about Joe Louis beating me? Slow-moving shuffling Joe Louis beat me? He may hit hard, but that don't mean nothing if you can't find nothing to hit. "
                    If fighters like Doug Jones could give him trouble you better believe so would Joe Louis.m Im not taking anything away from Ali. The guy was great. But people sell Louis short because the don't understand his style.

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                      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                      If fighters like Doug Jones could give him trouble you better believe so would Joe Louis.m Im not taking anything away from Ali. The guy was great. But people sell Louis short because the don't understand his style.
                      I never really got the whole thing where Jones gave that many problems to Ali. It's been a while since I've seen it, but I had it like 6-4 or 7-3 for Ali. I thought it was pretty clear that he won.

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