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    #11
    Originally posted by Turiaoei29 View Post
    Barrera is one of the best fighters I have ever seen, Hamed on the other hand was very good, but "ATG" gets thrown around a little to wild these days in my opinion.
    Yeah Hamed is really a journeyman who just never became a journeyman. He had success early grabbed some easy ABC belts and then got totally waxed the first time he stepped up to elite competition. That is the story of all journeyman only after they get waxed they become a stepping stone, Hamed simply retired instead.

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      #12
      Hamed was one of the greatest talents the sport hs ever seen

      Yes, his resume is lacking but still, his ability was undeniable

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        #13
        Originally posted by No Diggity View Post
        I'm getting around slowly to watching older classics. I gotta say (Jim), this fight was absolutely amazing!
        Back & forth the first 6 rounds, I had it 10-10 in the 7th, then Barrera just took control from that point on. Didn't agree with the point deduction in the 12th, I scored it 116-113 for Barrera (practically same card as Lederman)

        Clearly, both fighters are ATG's... I felt as if Naseem coulda done far better if he decided to ever throw a combo during the middle-late rounds.
        Ugh really?

        You need to watch Hamed/Lawal for a REAL fight doe

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          #14
          I scored it something like 8-4 but Barrera's general control of the fight made it feel wider than that. I guess it's like May/Pac in that regard, except a much more fun fight to watch.

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            #15
            Originally posted by No Diggity View Post
            I'm getting around slowly to watching older classics. I gotta say (Jim), this fight was absolutely amazing!
            Back & forth the first 6 rounds, I had it 10-10 in the 7th, then Barrera just took control from that point on. Didn't agree with the point deduction in the 12th, I scored it 116-113 for Barrera (practically same card as Lederman)

            Clearly, both fighters are ATG's... I felt as if Naseem coulda done far better if he decided to ever throw a combo during the middle-late rounds.
            How old are you??? I saw it live on HBO. Our idea of classic is very different.

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              #16
              Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
              I agree that the early rounds were closer but Barrera did batter him pillar to post, hell its one of the few times in boxing where that is literally true. Barrera broke Hamed down completely and totally. Sure you can watch the few rounds and pretend it was competitive but on the whole of the fight it wasn't' even close. Even in the rounds you think are competitive Barrera is still dominating its just more subtle he is slowly setting up the total ass kicking that happens in the later rounds.
              so true

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                #17
                Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                How old are you??? I saw it live on HBO. Our idea of classic is very different.
                no kidding i was 20 when that happened!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by baya View Post
                  no kidding i was 20 when that happened!
                  I was a bit over 30. We got some youngsters here. I like listening to youngsters talk, they can solve all the worlds problems, if only someone would listen to them.

                  Many have it all figured out!! Except the part about working and paying one's bills.

                  I don't mind at all. I can only get young chicks because I work, and don't live at home.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Turiaoei29 View Post
                    I remember that fight as being one-sided and Barrera's hands were too quick for Hamed's "hands-down-rely-on-reflexes-defensive-style".
                    Can you imagine how fun it would have been to watch Hamed's hands down rely totally on natural reflexes defense against Morales and Pacquiao? Hell MAB was the slowest of the great 4 and he had no trouble tagging Hamed. Hamad vs. Pacquiao would have been ****ing hilarious. For all 2 minutes of it, if that.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                      I was a bit over 30. We got some youngsters here. I like listening to youngsters talk, they can solve all the worlds problems, if only someone would listen to them.

                      Many have it all figured out!! Except the part about working and paying one's bills.

                      I don't mind at all. I can only get young chicks because I work, and don't live at home.
                      Hahaha
                      Except working & paying bills.

                      That's why I hate anybody under 25 that believes his ideas are perfect. Like any college-age person voting for Bernie that believes socialism is great

                      Honestly, the first fight I ever watched in real time was ODLH-Pacquiao probably

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