Most skillful fighter in boxing history? Who is he?

[Holywarrior]

He beat ruiz,, its not like he beat lennox,, there have been tons of lightheavy guys that could have done that....

If roy had skills to fall back on, he wouldnt be getting destroyed and clowned by calzaghe, tarver 2,3, glen johnson,

And many people thought tarver won the 1st fight.. I thought roy won it, but it was very close....

It's so easy to speculate ain't it.


No they did not. But this is coming from a guy who thinks Holyfield is easily better than Barney Ross so :boobies:

[VG_Addict]

Hopkins is better technically than Jones. How else would he able to compete at 48, while Jones has declined since losing to Tarver?

[Holywarrior]

Hopkins is better technically than Jones. How else would he be so good at his age?

You think the best Roy Jones couldn't beat Pascal or Cloud?

Tarver is maybe Hopkins' best win and Jones already beat him.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

It's so easy to speculate ain't it.


No they did not. But this is coming from a guy who thinks Holyfield is easily better than Barney Ross so :boobies:

Spinks could have done it,, no doubt moore, charles, tunney, conn, pretty much an legit great at lightheavy would make easy work of ruiz.....

Im not going to get into another big debate about ross-holyield,,, Ross was clearly a product of mafia controlled boxing era, and basically fought the same guys over and over again... and is best known for not going down vs armstrong when armstrong was beating him up...... Yeah the guy was leagues above a legit olympian, undisputed cruiser and undipsuted heavy champ.... LMAO

Ross was good in an era when you could win Fighter of the year award, but still have to wait years to get a title shot.... It was probably the most rigged, corrupted era of the sport

But once again,, im debating a guy that thinks only roy jones could beat ruiz, and is the most skilled fighter ever... LMAO

[VG_Addict]

And Jones beating Ruiz is not that big of an accomplishment. Ruiz was hand-picked by Jones because he was a slow, feather-fisted HW who wasn't that much bigger than Jones himself.

Spinks moved up to HW and beat the lineal champion, Holmes. You're not seriously going to tell me Ruiz is better than Holmes.

[Holywarrior]

Spinks could have done it,, no doubt moore, charles, tunney, conn, pretty much an legit great at lightheavy would make easy work of ruiz.....

Im not going to get into another big debate about ross-holyield,,, Ross was clearly a product of mafia controlled boxing era, and basically fought the same guys over and over again... and is best known for not going down vs armstrong when armstrong was beating him up...... Yeah the guy was leagues above a legit olympian, undisputed cruiser and undipsuted heavy champ.... LMAO

Ross was good in an era when you could win Fighter of the year award, but still have to wait years to get a title shot.... It was probably the most rigged, corrupted era of the sport

But once again,, im debating a guy that thinks only roy jones could beat ruiz, and is the most skilled fighter ever... LMAO

Why do you think I'm pinning his Greatness solely on Ruiz? You're choosing what you want to read based on your agenda.

You said "He had no meaningful wins after his abilities slipped" which was when he cut all the weight back down for the 175 lb title fight, which he won.

I simply answered your statement because it was absurd.

If that's not "meaningful" then you really showed your ass with some sort of agenda, despite you "liking" Roy Jones.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You think the best Roy Jones couldn't beat Pascal or Cloud?

Tarver is maybe Hopkins' best win and Jones already beat him.

Your talking about prime athletic jones... Once jones lost half a step, he was toast vs any legit fighter... Sure he can get by prince adami, and hanshaw and lacy but got embarrassed vs tarver, johnson, calzaghe, lebedev, green...

Dude got smoked by green in 1 round, and then ancient tarver went over and beat him up...

[Scott9945]

You think the best Roy Jones couldn't beat Pascal or Cloud?

Tarver is maybe Hopkins' best win and Jones already beat him.

Hopkins win over Tarver was much more impressive and convincing than Roy's was. Nobody (except Tarver) called for a rematch of that one.

[Holywarrior]

Hopkins win over Tarver was much more impressive and convincing than Roy's was. Nobody (except Tarver) called for a rematch of that one.

That's because fat famous Tarver was cashing checks for the new Rocky film

[Holywarrior]

Your talking about prime athletic jones... Once jones lost half a step, he was toast vs any legit fighter... Sure he can get by prince adami, and hanshaw and lacy but got embarrassed vs tarver, johnson, calzaghe, lebedev, green...

Dude got smoked by green in 1 round, and then ancient tarver went over and beat him up...

Why wouldn't I talk about prime Jones?

Prime Jones is the best I've seen. That's like me taking points off of Robinson for losing to Tiger Jones and all of the other lesser guys he lost to despite his GOAT resume.