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    Bob Fitzsimmons - P4P the best fighter ever, here are a few excerpts on the great "fighting blacksmith"

    Some critics, but few experts, argue that Fitz was too light to be a bonafide heavyweight. He may have been lanky with thin legs but his upper torso was equal to that of a well-developed two-hundred pound man. He may have looked like a joke but no one who fought him laughed

    Gilbert Odd (1974) also called Fitz a physical freak and fistic phenomenon. He comments that the magnificent shoulders and deep chest perched on spindly legs looked grotesque but had astonishing punching power.

    Fitz fought for thirty-four years and, during his career, held three world championship titles – middleweight, heavyweight, and light heavyweight. In 1893, he knocked out seven men in one evening and required only nineteen rounds to do so. All men weighed over 200 pounds. One stood 6-7 and weighed in at 240 pounds

    John L. Sullivan called him a "fighting machine on stilts". Jim Corbett said "for his weight and inches, he was the greatest fighter that ever drew on a glove". Jim Jeffries said he was "the trickiest man who ever fought in the heavyweight division and he could hit like hell. A guy could make just one mistake against old Fitz"

    Jack Johnson rated Fitzsimmons better than Jim Jeffries or Sam Langford as a puncher

    Edgar Lee Masters said "I could put up a good argument to the effect that Fitzsimmons, all things considered, was the greatest fighter who ever lived …"

    #2
    Bob Fitzsimmons was the greatest middleweight fighter of all-time, the second greatest light-heavyweight fighter of all-time, and the best "pound-for-pound" fighter in the history of boxing.

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      #3
      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
      Bob Fitzsimmons was the greatest middleweight fighter of all-time, the second greatest light-heavyweight fighter of all-time, and the best "pound-for-pound" fighter in the history of boxing.
      No he was not! the best middleweight of all time is Carlos Monzon, the best lightheavyweight of all time is Michael Spinks and the best pound for pound fighter is Harry Greb.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Joey Giardello View Post
        No he was not! the best middleweight of all time is Carlos Monzon, the best lightheavyweight of all time is Michael Spinks and the best pound for pound fighter is Harry Greb.
        That is your opinion not the opinion of boxing historians including those at the IBHOF - Fitzsimmons was the best ever.

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          #5
          sonnyboy you are better than posting this ******ed list....those bareknuckle boxers had little skill, would get annilated in todays competition....plus they werent even in that good shape most of them had beer bellys.......

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            #6
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
            That is your opinion not the opinion of boxing historians including those at the IBHOF - Fitzsimmons was the best ever.
            Which ones? The IBRO has Fitz #8 all-time at Middleweight () and many of their ranks would fit the IBHOF bill you describe. They have Greb at #1. Hank Kaplan had Harry Greb; so does Herb Goldman.

            In P4P terms, it's similar with Goldman and the IBRO () favoring Robinson over Greb P4P. Kaplan had Greb #1 there too. Fitz, again, down closer to 10.

            Originally posted by carlos slim View Post
            sonnyboy you are better than posting this ******ed list....those bareknuckle boxers had little skill, would get annilated in todays competition....plus they werent even in that good shape most of them had beer bellys.......
            Fitzsimmons was neither bare knuckle era or pot bellied. Silly comment.
            Last edited by crold1; 05-09-2010, 12:48 PM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by crold1 View Post
              Fitzsimmons was neither bare knuckle era or pot bellied. Silly comment.
              He did start as a bare knuckle boxer but it was only 2 of his fights in New Zealand apparently.

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                #8
                Originally posted by NChristo View Post
                He did start as a bare knuckle boxer but it was only 2 of his fights in New Zealand apparently.
                I stand corrected...I thought of him mostly as gloved era (which he was) and well into the gloved as well. All three of his titles came in mitts.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by NChristo View Post
                  He did start as a bare knuckle boxer but it was only 2 of his fights in New Zealand apparently.
                  NChristo - Fitzsimmons fought in 3 bare knuckle fights.

                  1883-1884
                  - Arthur Cooper, Timaru, NZ w ko 3
                  (Bare knuckles were used for this bout)
                  - Jack Murphy, Timaru, NZ w ko 4
                  (Bare knuckles were used for this bout)
                  - Jim Crawford , Timaru, NZ w rsf 3
                  (Bare knuckles were used for this bout)

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                    NChristo - Fitzsimmons fought in 3 bare knuckle fights.

                    1883-1884
                    - Arthur Cooper, Timaru, NZ w ko 3
                    (Bare knuckles were used for this bout)
                    - Jack Murphy, Timaru, NZ w ko 4
                    (Bare knuckles were used for this bout)
                    - Jim Crawford , Timaru, NZ w rsf 3
                    (Bare knuckles were used for this bout)
                    Ah k, thanks I heard that it was only 2 bouts

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