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    #21
    Your Rate Iron Mike Tyson #73??? whats the matter with you?? he should atleast be in top 50...

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      #22
      Originally posted by BritishBoxing92 View Post
      Your Rate Iron Mike Tyson #73??? whats the matter with you?? he should atleast be in top 50...
      Tyson shouldnt even be in the top 100. Hopkins and Jones ahead of Holyfield? Manny Pacquiao at number 12? Well its your list based on your opinion so everythings cool

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        #23
        Another side note is how much weight should we give to Amateur record and Olympics? I had Laszlo Papp in my top 200 not just for his 27-0 record but also for his great olympic record and gold medals. The fact is the professional record should have most weight; but amateur and olympics should get a little consideration. A guy like Papp won 3 Gold Medals in both JR MW and MW divisions, it should count for something.

        Although, we know olympics have a history of robberies just look at the 1988 Seoul Olympics and Roy Jones jr; i fight that i saw live and was in disbelief.

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          #24
          Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin View Post
          Another side note is how much weight should we give to Amateur record and Olympics? I had Laszlo Papp in my top 200 not just for his 27-0 record but also for his great olympic record and gold medals. The fact is the professional record should have most weight; but amateur and olympics should get a little consideration. A guy like Papp won 3 Gold Medals in both JR MW and MW divisions, it should count for something.

          Although, we know olympics have a history of robberies just look at the 1988 Seoul Olympics and Roy Jones jr; i fight that i saw live and was in disbelief.
          I have to respectfully disagree. Pro and amateur are two different ball games. Some times fighters just can't make the adjustment. Mark Breland and Howard Davis were great amateurs. As Pro's neither lived up to the expectations. I don't think any fighter should get extra credit for an outstanding amateur career, but thats just my opinion.

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            #25
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            I have to respectfully disagree. Pro and amateur are two different ball games. Some times fighters just can't make the adjustment. Mark Breland and Howard Davis were great amateurs. As Pro's neither lived up to the expectations. I don't think any fighter should get extra credit for an outstanding amateur career, but thats just my opinion.
            I put majority weight on Professional Career. But international competition has some weight especially when a guy like Papp won Gold medals in 3 different olympics and adds a little more weight to his 27-0 record. If your professional record is mediocore and your amateur great; than you don't make my list. But i have 2 undefeated fighters like a Papp and john doe; than Papp breaks the tie with his 3 gold medals.

            There is also the issue with winning titles; there are many great fighters that never won a title and that alone is reason for some not to include them. Some people will never include Young Stribling because he lost to Max and had a questionable Draw in his other title shot, yet i still include him on my list.

            But that is the beauty of people having their own list they include any criteria they deem important.

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              #26
              Originally posted by asero831 View Post
              This is my personal list of top 200 Boxers of all-time.
              personally i use this criteria:

              accomplishment, resume, historical significance, overall ability dominance,
              longetivity and mainsteam appeal

              I consider top 100 to be ATG while 101-120 to be borderline ATG...

              1. Sugar Ray Robinson
              2. Henry Armstrong
              3. Muhammad Ali
              4. Harry Greb
              5. Sam Langford
              6. Joe Louis
              7. Ezzard Charles
              8. Roberto Duran
              9. Willie Pep
              10. Benny Leonard

              11. Ray Leonard
              12. Manny Pacquiao
              13. Pernell Whitaker
              14. Archie Moore
              15. Bob Fitzsimmons
              16. Joe Gans
              17. Carlos Monzon
              18. Marvin Hagler
              19. Barney Ross
              20. Mickey Walker

              21. Gene Tunney
              22. Rocky Marciano
              23. Barbados Joe Walcott
              24. Alexis Arguello
              25. Sandy Saddler
              26. Kid Gavilan
              27. Julio Cesar Chavez
              28. Jimmy Wilde
              29. Roy Jones Jr
              30. Bernard Hopkins
              31. Tony Canzoneri
              32. Charley Burley
              33. Thomas Hearns
              34. Ike Williams
              35. Emile Griffith
              36. Jack Johnson
              37. Lennox Lewis
              38. Evander Holyfield
              39. Eder Jofre
              40. Jack Dempsey
              41. Salvador Sanchez
              42. Stanley Ketchel
              43. Michael Spinks
              44. Jose Napoles
              45. Floyd Mayweather Jr
              46. Jimmy McLarnin
              47. Tommy Loughran
              48. Larry Holmes
              49. Ruben Olivares
              50. Carlos Ortiz

              51. Fighting Harada
              52. Wilfredo Gomez
              53. Bob Foster
              54. Billy Conn
              55. **** Tiger
              56. Panama Al Brown
              57. George Foreman
              58. Joe Frazier
              59. Aaron Pryor
              60. Ted Kid Lewis
              61. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
              62. Terry McGovern
              63. Tommy Ryan
              64. Abe Attel
              65. Jack Britton
              66. Tiger Flowers
              67. Kid Chocolate
              68. Jake LaMotta
              69. Ricardo Lopez
              70. Manuel Ortiz
              71. Carmen Basilio
              72. Oscar De La Hoya
              73. Mike Tyson
              74. Carlos Zarate
              75. Wilfred Benitez

              76. Felix Trinidad
              77. Erik Morales
              78. Marco Antonio Barrera
              79. Jim Jeffries
              80. Shane Mosley
              81. Pancho Villa
              82. Azumah Nelson
              83. Packey McFarland
              84. Marcel Cerdan
              85. Miguel Canto
              86. Pascual Perez
              87. Juan Manuel Marquez
              88. Vicente Saldivar
              89. Flash Elorde
              90. George Dixon
              91. Mike McCallum
              92. Joe Calzaghe
              93. Harry Wills
              94. Holman Williams
              95. John Dundee
              96. Joe Brown
              97. Gene Fullmer
              98. Jim Driscoll
              99. Sonny Liston
              100. Antonio Cervantes

              101. Non Pareil Jack Dempsey
              102. Beau Jack
              103. Nicolino Locche
              104. Duilio Loi
              105. Khaosai Galaxy
              106. Benny Lynch
              107. Freddie Welsh
              108. Philidelphia Jack O'Brien
              109. James Toney
              110. Jimmy Bivins
              111. Harold Johnson
              112. Bob Montgomery
              113. Lloyd Marshall
              114. Maxie Rosenbloom
              115. John Henry Lewis
              116. Eusebio Pedroza
              117. Freddie Miller
              118. Lou Ambers
              119. Jeff Fenech
              120. Tommy Gibbons
              121. Battling Nelson
              122. Young Stribling
              123. Mike Gibbons
              124. Johnny Kilbane
              125. Young Griffo
              126. Vitalai Klitschko
              127. Wladimir Klitschko
              128. Pete Herman
              129. Kosta Tszyu
              130. Jack Dillon

              131. Tony Zale
              132. Nino Benvenuti
              133. Ken Buchanan
              134. Winky Wright
              135. Jack Kid Berg
              136. Fidel Labarba
              137. Jack Blackburn
              138. Jack McAuliffe
              139. Georges Carpentier
              140. Johnny Tapia
              141. Jersey Joe Walcott
              142. Sammy Angott
              143. Orlando Canizales
              144. Owen Moran
              145. Battling Levinsky
              146. Midget Wolgast
              147. Fritzie Zivic
              148. Joe Jeannette
              149. Kid McCoy
              150. Freddie Steele

              151. Lew Tendler
              152. Frankie Genaro
              153. Floyd Patterson
              154. Esteban De Jesus
              155. Kid Williams
              156. Joe Lynch
              157. Les Darcy
              158. Michael Carbajal
              159. Nigel Benn
              160. Chris Eubank
              161. Billy Papke
              162. Frank Klaus
              163. Jack Delaney
              164. Israel Vazquez
              165. Rafael Marquez
              166. Humberto Gonzales
              167. Terry Norris
              168. Jim Barry
              169. Jung-Koo Chang
              170. Tommy Burns
              171. John Coulon
              172. Joey Giardello
              173. Ismael Laguna
              174. Teddy Yarosz
              175. Ken Norton
              176. Rid**** Bowe
              177. Max Schmelling
              178. Carlos Palomino
              179. Joey Maxim
              180. Jose Luis Castillo
              181. Sam McVey
              182. Hector Camacho
              183. Dwight Qawi
              184. Ivan Calderon
              185. Ad Wolgast
              186. Jeff Chandler
              187. Diego Corrales
              188. Naseem Hamed
              189. Matthew Saad
              190. Little Red Lopez
              191. Billy Graham
              192. Miguel Cotto
              193. Willie Ritchie
              194. Hilario Zapata
              195. Jiro Watanabe
              196. Kid Lavigne
              197. Myung Woo Yuh
              198. Joel Casamayor
              199. Darius Michalczewski
              200. Rosendo Alvarez
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                #27
                Originally posted by �Hank$Moody� View Post
                Can you think of anyone else with 9 titles in 6 different weight classes?

                If anything, 72 is a bit low for him.
                Paper titles.

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                  #28
                  good list

                  while i may not agree with some of the placings i respect you for taking the time to post it

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