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    #41
    can i just say somethin smithy?

    you know how right now we got, shawn porter, and some other olympians and **** in one division? well actually i think most of them a division above porter

    but at some point they've been there, for about a year or longer

    anyway, my point is, when he got real good prodigy's (like Gamboa & Juanma)
    do you just head straight for eachother or would you build your resume for a mega bucks showdown?
    what would happen now if juanma/gamboa sufferred brain damage in todays fights?(please god dont let it be, im just giving an example) would people later on in life say, oh, did you know these guys blah blah, so -insert gamboa/juanma- clearly ducked -insert gamboa/juanma-

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      #42
      Originally posted by tehMatrix
      does anyone use the weight excuse for hatton losing to pacquiao or mayweather?
      did you know james toney weighed in 193 pounds against butler?
      after an hour toney came in at 175

      he ko'd butler in 4 rounds
      Since moving to smw Toney had 12 fights in a two year period and was balloning up inbetween fights it was only a matter of time before it blew up in his face. Especially when he staggers into training camp over 40 lbs overweight 6 weeks before the fight. He had to get put on a drip to rehydrate himself look at how flabby he was in that fight.

      You cant just say think Hatton, because Hatton never was in the same position. Yes he does ballon up inbetween fights but he fights between 1-2 times a year. Just imagine if Hatton was fighting 6 times a year like Toney and yo yo between the scales.
      Last edited by General Zod; 01-23-2010, 09:19 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
        Since moving to smw Toney had 12 fights in a two year period and was balloning up inbetween fights it was only a matter of time before it blew up in his face. Especially when he staggers into training camp over 40 lbs overweight 6 weeks before the fight. He had to get put on a drip to rehydrate himself look at how flabby he was in that fight.

        You cant just say think Hatton, because Hatton never was in the same position. Yes he does ballon up inbetween fights but he fights between 1-2 times a year. Just imagine if Hatton was fighting 6 times a year like Toney and yo yo between the scales.
        ignore that what i said in that post, completely misinterpreted

        it's worse for hatton because he really does blow up tho, i mean he goes up into 200 odd pounds and has to boil down to 140

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          #44
          Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
          can i just say somethin smithy?
          you know how right now we got, shawn porter, and some other olympians and **** in one division? well actually i think most of them a division above porter

          but at some point they've been there, for about a year or longer

          anyway, my point is, when he got real good prodigy's (like Gamboa & Juanma)
          do you just head straight for eachother or would you build your resume for a mega bucks showdown?
          what would happen now if juanma/gamboa sufferred brain damage in todays fights?(please god dont let it be, im just giving an example) would people later on in life say, oh, did you know these guys blah blah, so -insert gamboa/juanma- clearly ducked -insert gamboa/juanma-
          It depends on the fighters for example Tyson tried to unify all the belts before prison and after his prison stint. Hagler did the same thing after beating Antefurmo.

          On the flip side Leonard did keep away from Hearns until they thought the fight would have been bigger business.

          My question to you, do you think Jones would of fought McClellan at smw?

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            #45
            Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
            ignore that what i said in that post, completely misinterpreted

            it's worse for hatton because he really does blow up tho, i mean he goes up into 200 odd pounds and has to boil down to 140
            Which one is worse I dont know Toney blowing up 20+ between fights or Hatton spending 6 months at 190+ then coming down.
            Hatton is playing russian roulette with his weight, his days at 140 are numbered and if he ever fights there again he is going to look dreadful.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
              It depends on the fighters for example Tyson tried to unify all the belts before prison and after his prison stint. Hagler did the same thing after beating Antefurmo.

              On the flip side Leonard did keep away from Hearns until they thought the fight would have been bigger business.

              My question to you, do you think Jones would of fought McClellan at smw?
              they were set to fight, and mccellan was easily outboxed, if you seen him against hearns, his other two losses against some nobodies, he packed power, but he didn't hurt jones in the amatuers, not even a standing 8 count, but jones gave mcclellan a broken jaw

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                #47
                Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
                Which one is worse I dont know Toney blowing up 20+ between fights or Hatton spending 6 months at 190+ then coming down.
                Hatton is playing russian roulette with his weight, his days at 140 are numbered and if he ever fights there again he is going to look dreadful.
                hatton blows up 50+ pounds in a day, im not joking
                straight after the pacquiao fight he was in an interview a fat bastard

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
                  they were set to fight, and mccellan was easily outboxed, if you seen him against hearns, his other two losses against some nobodies, he packed power, but he didn't hurt jones in the amatuers, not even a standing 8 count, but jones gave mcclellan a broken jaw
                  Ive seem that Hearns exhibition fight, when did that happened? Im sure his punching power also increased drastically since the amatuers days. Benn talks about never being hit as hard as he wa against McClellan.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
                    Ive seem that Hearns exhibition fight, when did that happened? Im sure his punching power also increased drastically since the amatuers days. Benn talks about never being hit as hard as he wa against McClellan.
                    like i said, he packed a punch, but he would be easily outboxed by an elite like roy jones

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
                      hatton blows up 50+ pounds in a day, im not joking
                      straight after the pacquiao fight he was in an interview a fat bastard
                      ive seen that interview it was amazing how much weight he had managed to put back on. Dudes going to end up with serious heart problems later on in life thats for sure.

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