In his prime how good do you feel Joe Frazier was?

[BigMacFoster]

Your argument was "Frazier had already been champ for 3 years and he lost to Quarry and drew with Peralta the year before Frazier lost his title to Foreman"

Which wasn't true at all,Lyle lost to Quarry two and a half weeks later after foreman and frazier.

He never even faced Peralta until May 1973 and then a rematch draw later that year


You never destroyed any timeline

Your time line for Lyle simply blows. I've already pointed out the facts that he didn't turn pro till Frazier had already been champ for 3 years and he lost to Quarry and drew with Peralta the year before Frazier lost his title to Foreman. When should Frazier have given him a title shot?

My response

And yet you are listing out Lyle's shortcomings in 1973,A year in which I never even mentioned.Since when has number of years as a pro been a factor in which a fighter recieved a title shot? Tyson recieved a title shot after only just a year a half as a pro as did Fernando Vargas,Lyle was the hottest heavyweight in boxing in 1972 and after his knockout victory over Buster Mathis a heavyweight title fight between Frazier and Lyle seemed inevitable.But guess what happened? As was the case with Foster,Lyle got handed over to personal gatekeeper Jerry Quarry.I never claimed Lyle was in contention for a title shot in 1973,But to argue that he wasn't in 1972 is downright idiotic.

Your response

So what are you saying, that Lyle was a better fighter in 72 than 73?
Lol, it doesn't matter. I find it incredibly funny that you would put Frazier down for not fighting an up and coming, yet green fighter, inbetween bouts with ali and Foreman. I mean, how much more of a hater can you be?

Which doesn't actually support your "debunking my timeline"



Aren't you clever?

[JAB5239]

Your argument was "Frazier had already been champ for 3 years and he lost to Quarry and drew with Peralta the year before Frazier lost his title to Foreman"

Which wasn't true at all,Lyle lost to Quarry two and a half weeks later after foreman and frazier.

He never even faced Peralta until May 1973 and then a rematch draw later that year


You never destroyed any timeline






My response




Your response





Which doesn't actually support your "debunking my timeline"



Aren't you clever?

You are such an idiot you don't even realize you just owned yourself. Fucking brilliant!!!!

[BigMacFoster]

Thus settling the argument,You admit that you hero avoided many fighters during his era and you've trapped yourself into a corner of which not even the most apologetic of excuses can buy you out now.


It's starting to look like that you and the Dynamite Tit are the same person under two accounts,for two simple reasons

1)You both avoid and duck direct arguments,points and questions

2)Your hero's consist of glass jawed fighters


Now close your account and go join your sister at the zoo

[JAB5239]

Thus settling the argument,You admit that you hero avoided many fighters during his era and you've trapped yourself into a corner of which not even the most apologetic of excuses can buy you out now.


It's starting to look like that you and the Dynamite Tit are the same person under two accounts,for two simple reasons

1)You both avoid and duck direct arguments,points and questions

2)Your hero's consist of glass jawed fighters


Now close your account and go join your sister at the zoo

You're an idiot that has zero proof that Frazier avoided Lyle or Foster, intentional or otherwise. One fighter was green and unproven, the other lost his chance when he was beat by Quarry. Neither were ever in a mandatory position to challenge Frazier, therefore there was no "duck". Just because Frazier COULD have fought them doesn't mean he should have or had any obligation to. You don't seem to understand that and want to make up your own definition of what it means for one fighter to avoid another. You are seriously pathetic.

[Silencers]

Frazier at his best would've given any heavyweight throughout history a fight, win or lose.

[GJC]

Frazier at his best would've given any heavyweight throughout history a fight, win or lose.

Agreed, Frazier was a true warrior who doesn't seem to get a lot of respect these days.
Only 2 men to beat him were top 10 ATG HW's think that says enough really.

[Boxing_12]

You're an idiot that has zero proof that Frazier avoided Lyle or Foster, intentional or otherwise. One fighter was green and unproven, the other lost his chance when he was beat by Quarry. Neither were ever in a mandatory position to challenge Frazier, therefore there was no "duck". Just because Frazier COULD have fought them doesn't mean he should have or had any obligation to. You don't seem to understand that and want to make up your own definition of what it means for one fighter to avoid another. You are seriously pathetic.

Jabs you have just owned mac foster! have some k man!

[sonnyboyx2]

I think in his prime frazier was a animal, who could beat some and push all of the ATG heavyweights.

The man had a heart of a lion aswell, fighting with only one eye.

He also had very good head movement and his left hook is up there as the singlest hardest punch in history.

give me your thoughts on Frazier and how good you feel he was in his prime.

Smokin`Joe Frazier was one of the greatest heavyweight champions in history and an even money fight for any other heavyweight in history Frazier will always be ranked 5-7 on the ATG Heavyweight List..... Frazier was a Brute who had one of the hardest punches in boxing history, he had 30ins thighs to generate `incredible` KO power, Frazier had a chin made of `Granite`knocked to the canvas 6 times by a Peak George Foreman even lifted off the floor by the most savage punch in boxing history yet was up on his feet at the count of 3 ... Frazier was `Stopped` by Foreman NOT KOd.. No other fighter in boxing history could have gotten to his feet after such awesome punches as Frazier took, Joe Frazier won the greatest prize fight in boxing history March 8th 1971 (Fight of the Century) showing an unbelievable will to win, Joe Frazier was voted Fighter of the Year 3 Times, Joe Frazier took part in 4 fights voted Fight of the Year.. Frazier vs Ali (3) was 34yrs ago yet is still talked about today... Larry Holmes said in his autobiography that Joe Frazier would "Bomb-Out" Mike Tyson & Lennox Lewis in less than 2rds, Holmes said,"Holyfield would be too brave for his own good against Frazier and would be KOd within 4rds..... Smokin`Joe Frazier was one of the greats.

[bojangles1987]

Frazier would always have trouble with clubbing power punchers like Foreman, but his tenacity and body attack would give him a good chance against any other heavyweight that has ever fought.

[Gettin Jiggy]

Lmao,Great topic mate.Let's see how many references to Muhammad Ali in this thread we get,While we are at it.





Heart of a St.Lion perhaps?




One and counting




Credit from a poster sporting an Ali avatar? Two

So this is another one of my alts. I wish BPP could just confrim that I am no one's alt and the reason havent been on here lately is because my Internet has been playing up.

Foster everyone knows you and Slimey Limey are a alts. No one likes you round here, u don't know nothing about boxing or mma.

You always say how gay mma is and start threads about how the forum should be shut down, but yet you start threads in there wanting to discuss it?

Get a life you sad piece of ****!