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    #11
    I think Holyfield fought on the inside too much to beat Frazier honestly, Rid**** Bowe managed to beat Holyfield on the inside, Frazier is a better inside fighter than Bowe.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
      Holyfield vs Frazier who wins ? prime of coarse. It would probably look something like Qawi vs Holyfield stylistically only Joe puts on more pressure than Qawi imo.
      yes it would be similar but Frazier is a completely different animal to Qawi and i think Holyfield would get to brave for his own good and pay a heavy price... Bert Cooper who was limited hurt Holyfield badly and was `robbed` of the chance to finish a badly hurt Holyfield off, IMO Frazier would be too powerful and relentless, his bobbing and weaving style would enable him to land his left-hooks and he would be too much for Holyfield in the mid to late rounds... Frazier KO11

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        #13
        Hoping that the people who picked Holyfield arn't falling into the old trick that Frazier is like Tyson and he handled Tyson easily enough.
        Tyson and Frazier are totally different fighters, Frazier like Holyfield loved a war.

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          #14
          Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
          yes it would be similar but Frazier is a completely different animal to Qawi and i think Holyfield would get to brave for his own good and pay a heavy price... Bert Cooper who was limited hurt Holyfield badly and was `robbed` of the chance to finish a badly hurt Holyfield off, IMO Frazier would be too powerful and relentless, his bobbing and weaving style would enable him to land his left-hooks and he would be too much for Holyfield in the mid to late rounds... Frazier KO11
          Guess there is a first time for everything.....I agree.

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            #15
            Originally posted by GJC View Post
            Hoping that the people who picked Holyfield arn't falling into the old trick that Frazier is like Tyson and he handled Tyson easily enough.
            Tyson and Frazier are totally different fighters, Frazier like Holyfield loved a war.

            I did not pick Holyfield because of the Tyson fight but thinking about there is an indication in that fight as to why i think Holyfield would win. Holyfield would not allow Mike Tyson to back him up he knew he could not afford to let Tyson shift his weight onto front foot and by backing him up not only was he able to nullify his power but he was able to take Mike right out of his game because Mike cannot fight going backwards either.

            In the centre of the ring its Holyfield's fight against Frazier imo.

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              #16
              My first thought was that Evander would take this one easily.

              But then I realized that Holy does allow opponents to get in close,
              which Smokin Joe does exploit very well. I don't think Evander has the
              skill or inclination to keep Joe at jab's length. I have Frazier by decision
              or by final round TKO.

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                #17
                Man i keep going backwards and fowards in my head about this fight. I said Holyfield would be okay if he backed Joe up but then again he could not keep Qawi in the centre, so maybe Joe would win.

                Im still thinking though that in a grueling fight that Holyfield's chin might be the difference.

                Its a tough fight to call but i think Holyfield would cope with Frazier better than Ali.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                  Man i keep going backwards and fowards in my head about this fight. I said Holyfield would be okay if he backed Joe up but then again he could not keep Qawi in the centre, so maybe Joe would win.

                  Im still thinking though that in a grueling fight that Holyfield's chin might be the difference.

                  Its a tough fight to call but i think Holyfield would cope with Frazier better than Ali.
                  This one is a hard one to call I reckon in a series of 10 fights I'd give it to Holy 6-4 only because I think Holyfield can adapt and change better than Frazier. Worth considering the Bowe Holyfield fights too, Bowe was a great fighter inside as was Frazier.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by GJC View Post
                    This one is a hard one to call I reckon in a series of 10 fights I'd give it to Holy 6-4 only because I think Holyfield can adapt and change better than Frazier. Worth considering the Bowe Holyfield fights too, Bowe was a great fighter inside as was Frazier.


                    Yeah id agree with that.

                    I think once you have been in there with Joe and know what to expect you can make a plan on how to deal with him, but you never truly know how to deal with him untill you have shared a ring with and have had to deal with what he bring to the table, and i think that amongst other things was a factor in why Ali adapted a bit better to Joe's style after the first fight, this is why i think its realistic to say if they fought 10 times i could go 6-4 might go Holyfield's way.


                    Not that is should make any difference but these are also two of my fav fighters.

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                      #20
                      I would favor Frazier, slightly.

                      Holyfield often allowed his opponets to smother him, get in close, and go to war with them. That's Frazier's whole style right there, and if Holyfield had trouble keeping Qawi in the center and off of his chest ; I'm more than confident he would have those same troubles against a locomotive like Frazier.

                      If he could keep "Smoke" off of him, I would fvor 'Vander on points. But Holyfield's history tells me he wouldn't be able to, nor would he want to ; he would want a fight.

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