Langford says he floored Jack Johnson, and Johnson avoid purse offers

[Dr. Z]

Not a bad read.

" I caught Mistah Johnson on the point of the jaw with a right hook and flattened him out on the floor like a flapjack. His eyes were rollin’ and he almost turned white. When he got up he looked scared ‘most to death,’ and hung -on until the gong ended the round. After that he wouldn’t mix with me and just stuck out his left hand, jabbing me in the face the rest of the way. The referee said he won on points, but you can bet that Mistah Johnson was glad when it was over - Sam Langford talking about his lone match with Jack Johnson."


" We met in Cheisea five years ago in a fifteen round bout. I weighed 140 pounds then, while while Mistah Johnson weighed 190. " -Sam Langford

“Mistah Johnson was matched to tight twenty rounds with me at the National Sporting Club of London in May, 1909. He signed articles himself and accepted' a bonus from the club matchmaker. That was before the whipped Burns in Australia. But when the time came for him to make good he ran out of the match and gave no good reason. He knew he’d be whipped - San Langford on Jack Johnson bolting out of his signed articles. Wow--Did everybody get that, except for one fraud of a historian based in NY who goes by travestyny?

Have fun calling Langford a liar, you do quote him so much when you like what he says. And be sure to read the blow link.

[Marchegiano]

I'm not sure what the argument is, but, good post, good find, thanks for sharing.

[Dr. Z]

I'm not sure what the argument is, but, good post, good find, thanks for sharing.

Welcome. Its a revelation for sure

[travestyny]

Not a bad read.

" I caught Mistah Johnson on the point of the jaw with a right hook and flattened him out on the floor like a flapjack. His eyes were rollin’ and he almost turned white. When he got up he looked scared ‘most to death,’ and hung -on until the gong ended the round. After that he wouldn’t mix with me and just stuck out his left hand, jabbing me in the face the rest of the way. The referee said he won on points, but you can bet that Mistah Johnson was glad when it was over - Sam Langford talking about his lone match with Jack Johnson."


" We met in Cheisea five years ago in a fifteen round bout. I weighed 140 pounds then, while while Mistah Johnson weighed 190. " -Sam Langford

“Mistah Johnson was matched to tight twenty rounds with me at the National Sporting Club of London in May, 1909. He signed articles himself and accepted' a bonus from the club matchmaker. That was before the whipped Burns in Australia. But when the time came for him to make good he ran out of the match and gave no good reason. He knew he’d be whipped - San Langford on Jack Johnson bolting out of his signed articles. Wow--Did everybody get that, except for one fraud of a historian based in NY who goes by travestyny?

Have fun calling Langford a liar, you do quote him so much when you like what he says. And be sure to read the blow link.

I'm not calling langford a liar about anything.


I'm saying PROVE IT. And you can't. That's why you're mad. Because you're a failure


But good luck. When you get some proof to back up your claims, do let me know. And especially when you get balls to answer questions, but I don't see that happening. Maybe Mr. Moyle will answer questions in your place sometime soon?



By the way.....just a little morsel to show how desperate you are:


Your last visit here you were shopping this around as the gospel:




Look at the weights

Johnson, almost six foot tan and weighing 185 pounds, towered over 20-year-old Langford who weighed Just 155 at 5'6".

You should try figuring out which source you want to take as the gospel first before embarrassing yourself, you hear? Good luck, chump

[HOUDINI563]

Revelation? It’s a complete fabrication and has been fully understood as a fabrication for 80 plus years. Joe Woodman stated that Johnson easily beat Langford and that Sam never came close to knocking him down. It was all a lie and an admitted lie. No truth in it whatsoever.

[Dr. Z]

Revelation? It’s a complete fabrication and has been fully understood as a fabrication for 80 plus years. Joe Woodman stated that Johnson easily beat Langford and that Sam never came close to knocking him down. It was all a lie and an admitted lie. No truth in it whatsoever.

Woodman tired everything he could including building Johnson up to obtain a match. I'm using Sam Langford words here. He said he knocked him down, Sam did not say he won the fight.

[Dr. Z]

I'm not calling langford a liar about anything.


I'm saying PROVE IT. And you can't. That's why you're mad. Because you're a failure


But good luck. When you get some proof to back up your claims, do let me know. And especially when you get balls to answer questions, but I don't see that happening. Maybe Mr. Moyle will answer questions in your place sometime soon?



By the way.....just a little morsel to show how desperate you are:


Your last visit here you were shopping this around as the gospel:




Look at the weights





You should try figuring out which source you want to take as the gospel first before embarrassing yourself, you hear? Good luck, chump

Travestyny,

Should I ask for film and photo of everything as you do ? I think under such terms you'd be out of business. Spraying newspaper headlines around as if they were fact. HA! I give observations from those who were ringside and quote the fighters words. See the difference?

A historian should know that fighters often gave their weights back then and did not weight in, but then again you're not a historian. Sam said he was 140. Also, there was a side bet if Langford would last the distance. Johnson could not stop a 140 pound man, who by the time of the fight had little or no heavyweight experience and was estimated to be 20 years old. He also backed out of a signed agreement, that is if you can read.

By the way are you ever going to tell me who in your opinion was Johnson's three best wins? Your ducking ability might be better than Johnson himself. I already answered you kindergarten level questions. . Johnson had MULTIPLE offers to fight Langford, not just three. I can sign the ones where the money fired out too and act like I'm not ducking.

[travestyny]

Travestyny,

Should I ask for film and photo of everything as you do ? I think under such terms you'd be out of business. Spraying newspaper headlines around as if they were fact. HA! I give observations from those who were ringside and quote the fighters words. See the difference?

A historian should know that fighters often gave their weights back then and did not weight in, but then again you're not a historian. Sam said he was 140. Also, there was a side bet if Langford would last the distance. Johnson could not stop a 140 pound man, who by the time of the fight had little or no heavyweight experience and was estimated to be 20 years old. He also backed out of a signed agreement, that is if you can read.

By the way are you ever going to tell me who in your opinion was Johnson's three best wins? Your ducking ability might be better than Johnson himself. I already answered you kindergarten level questions. . Johnson had MULTIPLE offers to fight Langford, not just three. I can sign the ones where the money fired out too and act like I'm not ducking.

LMAO. You're such a moron. Take it from your own historian, dumbo.

You were telling us how great Monte Cox is.

This is an article by a boxing historian who fought . Why not read it and say what is not true?

" Jack Johnson Was Not as Great as You Were Told! :

As for Sam Langford he only weighed 156 pounds during their only fight.

Now come back and tell me that Monte Cox aint shlt, fool.

Your problem is that you are so blinded by hate that you can't use your brain!!!!!!!

By the way, don't know what you are talking about claiming I quote Langford so much. I quoted him twice. Once about how great Jack Johnson is, and once about Johnson not ever being down. Oh, and once more...about his opinion that Dempsey was ducking Harry Wills. Now if you can tell me why he would lie about any of those, please do. The point is that he has a reason to lie about Johnson being down and about weighing less, dumbo. If you only had a brain


By the way, I've answered your question at least 3 times about his best wins. Do I really need to find the posts and add them here? Well here you go. I'll make it larger so your bum ass can see


FEBRUARY 9TH....NEARLY A MONTH AGO. MAYBE IF YOU STOP DUCKING MY POSTS YOU WOULD HAVE READ IT.

As for Johnson's 3 best wins. Easy.

Langford
Jeannette
McVey

There was already a thread about this and plenty more were mentioned like Burns, Ketchel, Jefferies.


How many times do I have to answer your questions, while you duck mine? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Pretty sure I answered that question even before then. Then you came back later and ask who he fought in or close to their prime. Again, I answered:

In or near their prime: Tommy Burns, Joe Jeannette, Sam Langford. That was easy.

Hope you got it finally, chump. Enjoy!


Ps. Don't be mad at me because Johnson agreed to fight Langford 3 times and yet you are still unable to pinpoint any legit offer that was ducked. LMAO.

[travestyny]

Woodman tired everything he could including building Johnson up to obtain a match. I'm using Sam Langford words here. He said he knocked him down, Sam did not say he won the fight.

By the way. I love that you didn't even challenge Houdini. Just bowed down and changed the topic real quick. You made a whole thread just to talk about two lies that Langford told. LMAOOOOOO.


You are officially the History Section's dunce...next to Queenie

[HOUDINI563]

The issue is that Mendoza does not look at Johnson logically but via tainted glasses. Why? As per Mendoza ..,,,”Because he hit his wife”. This is why he will take any snippet no matter if it is a lie or not and use it to smear Johnson. Yet he lifts Jeffries up as all heavyweights superior even though he only had 23 total bouts. There was a video on YouTube I found several years ago, a “short”, from the early 30’s. Jeffries is mowing his lawn as a young actress stops him and asks questions. One was “How many fights did you have”. The response “I don’t remember”. Even in 1931 Jeffries was ashamed of his meager record!