Harry Greb shadowboxing

[KostyaTszyu44]

sorry i dont know how to post videos so you can watch them here, but theres some footage of him shadowboxing

hes pretty bad

i know he accomplished a lot but i think thats due to his contemporaries being very limited themselves

i dont think he became some sort of juggernaut once he got into the ring...thats his boxing style right there, and he looks like a mental patient swinging his arms about rabidly

honestly i think the 30's/40's was the turning point for boxing as far as skills went, when guys robinson, louis, walcott, charles etc came along, guys with excellent form and ability

the guys before that were pretty awful skill wise

[them_apples]

sorry i dont know how to post videos so you can watch them here, but theres some footage of him shadowboxing

hes pretty bad

i know he accomplished a lot but i think thats due to his contemporaries being very limited themselves

i dont think he became some sort of juggernaut once he got into the ring...thats his boxing style right there, and he looks like a mental patient swinging his arms about rabidly

honestly i think the 30's/40's was the turning point for boxing as far as skills went, when guys robinson, louis, walcott, charles etc came along, guys with excellent form and ability

the guys before that were pretty awful skill wise

yea he looks like some of the amateurs at my local gym, but you can't knock the guy - he beat the likes of Gene Tunney, a quite skillful boxer.


heres him sparring, lol

[geribeetus]

"without actually watching the guys fight or seeing what they did and how overrated their accomplishments are

james j jeffries for instance...have you seen him and his contemporaries fight?? they were utter ****!!"

lmfao this video is probably the extent of kostyas knowledge of fights back then. 30 seconds of training. because sugar ray robinson and joe louis didnt build up on what these men pioneered or anything. ****ing ******.

[Kid McCoy]

Greb was clowning around for the cameras. That footage doesn't prove anything.

honestly i think the 30's/40's was the turning point for boxing as far as skills went, when guys robinson, louis, walcott, charles etc came along, guys with excellent form and ability

the guys before that were pretty awful skill wise

Gene Tunney, Jack Johnson, Jim Corbett, George Dixon, Joe Gans...pretty awful skill wise? Baloney!

Joe Louis learned his skills from Jack Blackburn, a Hall of Fame lightweight of the 1900s with some 150 fights to his name. He was also an early trainer of Jersey Joe Walcott. Now where did Blackburn learn them if everyone was devoid of skill prior to that?

[TheGreatA]

Greb was said to have been joking around when those films were taken. Unfortunately there is no other footage of him.

From all the information I've gathered, I'd say that his style must've resembled Joe Calzaghe's (with numerous punches thrown from all angles). Now everyone who has seen Calzaghe fight knows that he isn't exactly the most orthodox fighter around but his style most certainly works, even today.

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[them_apples]

Greb was said to have been joking around when those films were taken. Unfortunately there is no other footage of him.

From all the information I've gathered, I'd say that his style must've resembled Joe Calzaghe's (with numerous punches thrown from all angles). Now everyone who has seen Calzaghe fight knows that he isn't exactly the most orthodox fighter around but his style most certainly works, even today.

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lol that's a pretty good point. What about comparing him to Mayweather, Hopkins or most recently Pacquiao (in his recent fights).

I really don't like to be the devil's advocate here, but I certainly hope he's just joking, because a lot of that is just him being sloppy more so than "unorthodox" even Calzaghe (probably one of my least favorite fighters) has some sort of form. (The Hopkins fight was bad in particular, but against Jones he was stringing some sharp slaps together). shot Jones that is.

[TheGreatA]

lol that's a pretty good point. What about comparing him to Mayweather, Hopkins or most recently Pacquiao (in his recent fights).

I'd compare Jack Johnson to Hopkins, Joe Gans to Mayweather and Pancho Villa to Pacquiao...

[them_apples]

I'd compare Jack Johnson to Hopkins, Joe Gans to Mayweather and Pancho Villa to Pacquiao...

no offense, but in all those matchups I'd pick the latter. Johnson vs Hopkins (skillwise) come on now man...

Pacquiao is just a genetic freak..

I haven't watched enough of Joe Ganz so I won't make a statement as I've been proven to be wrong before lol.

[Southpaw16BF]

sorry i dont know how to post videos so you can watch them here, but theres some footage of him shadowboxing

hes pretty bad

i know he accomplished a lot but i think thats due to his contemporaries being very limited themselves

i dont think he became some sort of juggernaut once he got into the ring...thats his boxing style right there, and he looks like a mental patient swinging his arms about rabidly

honestly i think the 30's/40's was the turning point for boxing as far as skills went, when guys robinson, louis, walcott, charles etc came along, guys with excellent form and ability

the guys before that were pretty awful skill wise

That was Greb, joking around for the camera, little did he know that would virtually the only footage of him.

thats his boxing style right there, and he looks like a mental patient swinging his arms about rabidly

You say he's pretty bad shadow boxing and looked like a mental patient, but Greb was a tremendous flurry puncher, and hit you at all angles and had a tremendous work rate. And set the trend for fighters like Armstrong and Pryor.

He also had one of the best chins, it was cast iron. and had a tremendous heart, and battled through the latter end of his career, with burley no vision.And beat some of the best fighters of all time with one eye including Gene Tunney.

The man was one hell of a fighter, and with out dout is one of the best of all time.

You Say
honestly i think the 30's/40's was the turning point for boxing as far as skills went, when guys robinson, louis, walcott, charles etc came along, guys with excellent form and ability

Can't agree with you, Not many fighters had more skill that Jack Johnson, at one point he was deemed the perfect fighter, he could do it all. Brillant Defence, Brillant Counter Puncher, Brillant Footwork and could punch.

And he weren't on his own, there were pleny of fighters with just as much skill and abilty before the 30's, etc Gene Tunney, Joe Gans, Sam Langford, Jim Corbett,Maxie Rosenbloom, George Dixion.

These fighters back here were just as good as the ones today, and had just as much skill and abilty. They don't get enough respect, and some boxing fans don't give them enough credit or relalize how good they were.

[Richie-G]

i really hope he was messing about.