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    Ortiz not so kind words from Mosley and Oscar...

    Ok fellas I saw the fight on the replay last night. WOW is all I can say about the first 5 rounds or so. We had a very exciting fight on our hands and knock down after knock down round after round. I was thinking to myself why isn't Ortiz using his jab? I know he has that good straight left hand and he should have been using his jab to set that up but it seems like he was content fighting the other guys fight. I saw after one round that oscar was yelling at Ortiz from ring side to be smart. I belive it was after Victor scored two knockdowns. Ortiz moved in for the kill but was unable to finish him. It seemed the Argentinan got stronger and was able to hurt ortiz with the right hand at will.

    in the 6th when Ortiz QUIT.....Yeah I know they said the doctor stopped the fight but as everyone saw he shook his head no and told Raul NO MAS!!! He was hit with some big shots and rocked int he corner kinda shoved down to his knees with a left to the body. he seemed like he was ok to continue but he just didn't want to. I saw the first person who grabbed his ear was Shane Mosley. I couldn;t really reads his lips but I could only imagine what he was saying to Ortiz. Bob Pappa called them words of wisdom but to me t looked more like Shane telling him..."Come Victor you don;t quit like that? That was a poor excuse for a guy with as much talent as you to just give up for no good reason". I didn;t see Oscar grab his ear but I know they were very dipleased with him for quitting like that.

    Then after that conversation went and passed Kellerman grabbed him for a post fight interview. he seemed like some air head surfer dude with the way he was speaking. Like he had no common sense or he just didn;t care about his career. You gotto know that Mexican fight fans don;t play when it comes to quitting. For him to say what he said post fight may have damamged his career for good. I know I lost alot of respect for him. I was very much interested in seeing this fight and looking forward to furture matchups with this young talented fighter but after seeing him quit and then hearing his post fight words I am not so sure anymore that I care if I ever see him in the ring again.

    Truly a shame because even if he had lost this fight by either decision or got KTFO I would have ut this match up there for a vote in the fight of the year. It had tons of back and forth action dramam and knocdowns all it was missing was the knock out. Someone should tell Victor that is every fighter thought like him then he would probably be working some IT job or be repairing cars becuase no one would watch boxing.....MMA? Fighting inside a cage elbows and knees I think Ortiz would **** his pants if he had to get in there with those rules.....he really shamed Golden Boy and the Mexican fans who paid good money to see him fight Saturday night. I truly wonder what Oscar and Shane had to say after that embarassmant.....Lefty

    Last edited by LEFTYGUNZZ; 06-29-2009, 07:29 AM. Reason: add video

    #2
    Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View Post
    Ok fellas I saw the fight on the replay last night. WOW is all I can say about the first 5 rounds or so. We had a very exciting fight on our hands and knock down after knock down round after round. I was thinking to myself why isn't Ortiz using his jab? I know he has that good straight left hand and he should have been using his jab to set that up but it seems like he was content fighting the other guys fight. I saw after one round that oscar was yelling at Ortiz from ring side to be smart. I belive it was after Victor scored two knockdowns. Ortiz moved in for the kill but was unable to finish him. It seemed the Argentinan got stronger and was able to hurt ortiz with the right hand at will.

    in the 6th when Ortiz QUIT.....Yeah I know they said the doctor stopped the fight but as everyone saw he shook his head no and told Raul NO MAS!!! He was hit with some big shots and rocked int he corner kinda shoved down to his knees with a left to the body. he seemed like he was ok to continue but he just didn't want to. I saw the first person who grabbed his ear was Shane Mosley. I couldn;t really reads his lips but I could only imagine what he was saying to Ortiz. Bob Pappa called them words of wisdom but to me t looked more like Shane telling him..."Come Victor you don;t quit like that? That was a poor excuse for a guy with as much talent as you to just give up for no good reason". I didn;t see Oscar grab his ear but I know they were very dipleased with him for quitting like that.

    Then after that conversation went and passed Kellerman grabbed him for a post fight interview. he seemed like some air head surfer dude with the way he was speaking. Like he had no common sense or he just didn;t care about his career. You gotto know that Mexican fight fans don;t play when it comes to quitting. For him to say what he said post fight may have damamged his career for good. I know I lost alot of respect for him. I was very much interested in seeing this fight and looking forward to furture matchups with this young talented fighter but after seeing him quit and then hearing his post fight words I am not so sure anymore that I care if I ever see him in the ring again.

    Truly a shame because even if he had lost this fight by either decision or got KTFO I would have ut this match up there for a vote in the fight of the year. It had tons of back and forth action dramam and knocdowns all it was missing was the knock out. Someone should tell Victor that is every fighter thought like him then he would probably be working some IT job or be repairing cars becuase no one would watch boxing.....MMA? Fighting inside a cage elbows and knees I think Ortiz would **** his pants if he had to get in there with those rules.....he really shamed Golden Boy and the Mexican fans who paid good money to see him fight Saturday night. I truly wonder what Oscar and Shane had to say after that embarassmant.....Lefty

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      #3
      Anyone got anything to say fellas I know I am little bit late but I wasn;t on over the weekend....Lefty

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        #4
        I thought Mosley was telling him to keep his left hand up and that every time he threw a shot he dropped his left hand. Ortiz then said something to him and then Mosley seemed to give him some encouraging words, I don't think he really dug into him there. DLH just seemed to ask him if he was OK before the camera changed.

        I would not be surprised at all if they gave him a talking to in the dressing room though because Ortiz' tone totally changed at the press conference.

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          #5
          That was a weird interview,its almost like its nothing.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Silencers View Post
            I thought Mosley was telling him to keep his left hand up and that every time he threw a shot he dropped his left hand. Ortiz then said something to him and then Mosley seemed to give him some encouraging words, I don't think he really dug into him there. DLH just seemed to ask him if he was OK before the camera changed.

            I would not be surprised at all if they gave him a talking to in the dressing room though because Ortiz' tone totally changed at the press conference.
            They have alot invested in this young fighter. HBO has put alot into Golden Boy Promotions and it seems between the cancelled fights and postponements it was or it had to be this fight that was going to carry boxing on HBO for the next 6 weeks or so. I know the 24/7 is going to start in a few weeks and then the next fight we have coming is Paulie vs Baby Bull but beside that we haven't got much from Golden Boy and HBO to look forward to until maybe October right Siliencers? So for Victor Ortiz to quit the way he did then talk the way he did you don;t see that as a giant blow to Golden Boy? Honestly it got Arum talking and I know I noticed.....Lefty

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              #7
              Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View Post
              They have alot invested in this young fighter. HBO has put alot into Golden Boy Promotions and it seems between the cancelled fights and postponements it was or it had to be this fight that was going to carry boxing on HBO for the next 6 weeks or so. I know the 24/7 is going to start in a few weeks and then the next fight we have coming is Paulie vs Baby Bull but beside that we haven't got much from Golden Boy and HBO to look forward to until maybe October right Siliencers? So for Victor Ortiz to quit the way he did then talk the way he did you don;t see that as a giant blow to Golden Boy? Honestly it got Arum talking and I know I noticed.....Lefty
              September has Mayweather-Marquez, that's their next big show but yeah, they don't really have anything big lined up for the rest of the year unless you count Pacquiao-Cotto, they have a minor stake in Pacquaio.

              It was a huge blow to GBP, they were grooming 3 fighters to be big attractions, Guerrero, Kirkland and Ortiz. All 3 have suffered some type of setback in the past few months. Guerrero because of the Yordan fight where it looked like he wanted out, Kirkland because of his ******ity and now Ortiz because of his perceived breakdown. Ortiz was supposed to be the next big thing and the manner of the loss, more than the loss itself derailed those plans big time. Whether they can get him back on track we'll have to wait and see.

              No one is better at building up a fighter than Top Rank, Bruce Trampler in particular is great at matchmaking.

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                #8
                Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View Post
                They have alot invested in this young fighter. HBO has put alot into Golden Boy Promotions and it seems between the cancelled fights and postponements it was or it had to be this fight that was going to carry boxing on HBO for the next 6 weeks or so. I know the 24/7 is going to start in a few weeks and then the next fight we have coming is Paulie vs Baby Bull but beside that we haven't got much from Golden Boy and HBO to look forward to until maybe October right Siliencers? So for Victor Ortiz to quit the way he did then talk the way he did you don;t see that as a giant blow to Golden Boy? Honestly it got Arum talking and I know I noticed.....Lefty
                Any link for the fight??

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                  #9
                  i could not figure out for the life of me why the hell he wasnt jabbing.... he was the better skilled boxer, he had a good reach, a complicated southpaw stance... all he had to do was freaking jab and he could have won that one....

                  i dont get it, i really dont

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                    #10
                    I wanna watch the fight!!!!!!!!!!

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