Ortiz not so kind words from Mosley and Oscar...

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Victor Ortiz will NEVER be the star people thought he could be after this fight. He doesn't have the mentality. I compared him a little to Vargas but hell Vargas would never have gone out like that. The post fight interview showed that he doesn't have what it takes and at the press conference he was coached what to say. I've never really understood why people thought this guy was the next big thing. He has star quality as far as personality but as far as boxing he's pretty good but far from a star.

In his previous fights he was in their with guys that just couldn't handle his pressure. I've always thought his chin was questionable, although he did take some solid shots in the fight, his defense is pretty bad. Drops his hands too low and very poor head movement. offensively he has good power but subpar handspeed, especially at the elite level at 140-147.

That being said, if he would have boxed this guy he probably would have won. He didn't jab or go to the body at all. He needs to box because he's not a slugger. At least not against someone who's going to be able to take it and give it back. This guy didn't have a lot except a hard punch and was just about out of there himself after the last two KD. With his style, Ortiz is bound to get beat up in fights and he just doesn't look like he wants to be the type of warrior that could deal with that. Ortiz=Overhyped

I like his style and he is exciting to watch...he can box and he can slug it out if need be...HBO was touting him highly until he just gave up in the 6th round. Emmanuel and Bob didn;t say anything brash after that but leave it to max to say it like it was out there. If you didn't notice what happened and you didn;t read much into the post fight with Max then when Max said what he said after the fight defintely did him in....he is not very smart and Oscar and Co should have walked him back to the dressing room right after the fight and skipped that in the ring interview.....If he was so badly hurt like he said he was....Lefty

[Wyson]

i cant believe he quit

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

i cant believe he quit

As soon as he got hit hard in teh 5th he started retreating and putting himself against the ropes you could see he was really reluctant to exchange. he seemed buzzed and took some really hard shots. To me he was hurt worse in the 5th then in the 6th. Maidana started off round 6 with a hard right hand backing Ortiz up from the get go. He got him in the cornera dn Ortiz weaved his way around a few shots and ended up on his hands and knees. he got up quickly at the counts o 3 and then started to give the impression he did not want to continue by shaking his hand and his head and turning his back on the reff....the reff took mercy on him and gave him a few more seconds by pulling him to the ringside and haiving the doctor check the cut above his right eye. As they were there Ortiz gave no indication he wanted to continue he said nothing like I am ok his body language was of a beaten fighter who no longer wanted to fight. The reff took more mercy on him by saying to the doctor serverals times I am going to stop the fight he cant continue I am going to sotp it should I stop it and finallythe doctor said yes he cannot continue go ahead and stop the fight. But the dumb ignorant kid couldnt even take the pass the reff and the doctor gave him by fouling it up for him self with his ******ed interview after the fight.....We all have eyes and we could see it but we dont need it rubbed in our faces.....Lefty

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

As soon as he got hit hard in teh 5th he started retreating and putting himself against the ropes you could see he was really reluctant to exchange. he seemed buzzed and took some really hard shots. To me he was hurt worse in the 5th then in the 6th. Maidana started off round 6 with a hard right hand backing Ortiz up from the get go. He got him in the cornera dn Ortiz weaved his way around a few shots and ended up on his hands and knees. he got up quickly at the counts o 3 and then started to give the impression he did not want to continue by shaking his hand and his head and turning his back on the reff....the reff took mercy on him and gave him a few more seconds by pulling him to the ringside and haiving the doctor check the cut above his right eye. As they were there Ortiz gave no indication he wanted to continue he said nothing like I am ok his body language was of a beaten fighter who no longer wanted to fight. The reff took more mercy on him by saying to the doctor serverals times I am going to stop the fight he cant continue I am going to sotp it should I stop it and finallythe doctor said yes he cannot continue go ahead and stop the fight. But the dumb ignorant kid couldnt even take the pass the reff and the doctor gave him by fouling it up for him self with his ******ed interview after the fight.....We all have eyes and we could see it but we dont need it rubbed in our faces.....Lefty

See the thread Did he or didn;t he and I am bumping this up....Lefty

[NeXt In Line]

As far as Silencers saying that Golden Boy had three fighters they were hyping, I agree with them, but I also watched Danny "golden Child" Jacobs over the weekend, and it looked to me like he could definitely be a BIG player for Golden Boy in the future.

[Pullcounter]

GBP was probably pissed with Ortiz's interview w/ Max.

At least Victor is an honest kid.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

GBP was probably pissed with Ortiz's interview w/ Max.

At least Victor is an honest kid.

Sometimes honesty is NOT the best policy Pully.....You know he could have just said Look Max The best man won today I am really disappointed in myself and my performance. I thought I could take him out and I am sorry to my fans who came out to see me win. I will be back but for now I have to regroup and rethink my strategy for my next fight....not I was hurt and I am not going to lay down for nobody blah blah blah i shouldnt be getting beat up like this blah blah blah laugh laugh laugh....WTF?????....Lefty

[Sin City]

I am not a fan of MMA but there is a big difference between tapping out because someone has you in a choke hold or is about to break your arm off at the elbow....he took a few shots and was thrown to the ground he wasn't that badily hurt when he quit...He could have continued and held on possibly KTFO of the other guy Maidana....Lefty

what fight where you watching? the guy was out on his feet.. he couldn't even speak in his corner.
I think it's one of those things where your not sure you want to be something until you tried it.. vic tried boxing and unfortunately had to realise it in the ring that maybe this isn't what he wants to be. no shame in that. at least he tried it to see wether he was good or not.
least he got that far.. You will never do anything as significant or noteworthy as Vic did just headlining his own card AT LEAST he got that far.

[Pullcounter]

Sometimes honesty is NOT the best policy Pully.....You know he could have just said Look Max The best man won today I am really disappointed in myself and my performance. I thought I could take him out and I am sorry to my fans who came out to see me win. I will be back but for now I have to regroup and rethink my strategy for my next fight....not I was hurt and I am not going to lay down for nobody blah blah blah i shouldnt be getting beat up like this blah blah blah laugh laugh laugh....WTF?????....Lefty

nah man don't teach an honest kid to be crooked.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

nah man don't teach an honest kid to be crooked.

I dont think by saying he did his best and the best man won I am disappointed in my performance and I have no one to blame for it but myself I have to regroup and rethink my strategy and walking away is being dishonest...Lefty