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    #41
    Originally posted by GoldenBoy23 View Post
    Are u saying they're isnt an undisputed champ in mma? Machida, Silva, GSP, Penn, MTB, Bowles and flyweight wud be Jussier or Shinichi so yeh flyweight and tech. HW are the only ones without undisputed champs imo
    I'd say that there are too many quality lightweights outside the UFC for Penn to be an undisputed champion. I still don't see anyone outside the UFC beating him though.

    But yeah Machida, Anderson, GSP etc are all undisputed.

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      #42
      Originally posted by sunthunder View Post
      I'd say that there are too many quality lightweights outside the UFC for Penn to be an undisputed champion. I still don't see anyone outside the UFC beating him though.

      But yeah Machida, Anderson, GSP etc are all undisputed.
      Yeah i agree theres some top LWs in Dream and other orgs but right now nobody can beat BJ at LW as long as he stays focused this time. I'd also say Fedor may not be a champ but hes no doubt no.1 at HW

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        #43
        I include Fedor in the list of undisputed champs as well as Machida, Silva and GSP.

        Also, Moussasi may well be the #2 LHW, at least before long.

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          #44
          There is no undisputed champions out there you dolts,Even When Anderson Silva and Quinton Jackson beat Dan Henderson,There was still no undisputed champion.

          MMA follows the exact same structure that pro wrestling does,There's no such thing as world champions,Their promotional champions,champions of a brand.

          When mmGAY starts using legitimate rankings and governing bodies then and only then can claims of undisputed champions be made

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            #45
            Yes there is, u mean theres no undisputed champs in boxing. You think mma should use the same format as boxing and end up in a mess with top fighters avoiding eachother ye? Sounds great

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              #46
              Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
              well the original thread question is ******. i do agree mma isnt taking over boxing though, they are just taking the fans who tune in for random violence without really understanding the art of fighting. if they did they would stay with boxing instead of that trash. those who cant see that, good. let them go over to sherdog and make NSB a better site.
              PPV numbers and the success of the sport of MMA says otherwise.

              It's safe to say that almost every MMA fan that posts on a forum understands what is going on when two guys are fighting. Casuals, not so much.

              Fighting in itself is an art and isn't restricted to boxing. All forms of fighting require knowledge to understand what is going on. Saying BJJ, Judo, Muay Thai, Karate, Wrestling doesn't require you to understand, you are seriously mistaken.

              And I go news for you, bro. This site is already ****ty and it isn't because of MMA fans in this part of the site. Very rarely does a poster on this site go into NSB and trash boxing while putting MMA on a pedestal. But almost everyday, there is a thread made in here where boxing fans discrediting MMA and it's combatants.

              Even when I post in the Lounge, even when MMA isn't even mentioned a I get lip from that prepubescent ****** Loc saying "*** MMA" for no reason.

              It's people like you and lot of people on this site, that doctors don't bother curing cancer.

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                #47
                Originally posted by BigMacFoster View Post
                When mmGAY starts using legitimate rankings and governing bodies then and only then can claims of undisputed champions be made
                Enough with the MMGay joke already, it's not funny just pathetic.

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