Yeah i know what your talking about Verse, I've always thought he should bring more passion more often. At the same time, i can't get into rappers who have alot of passion but who have A-B-C rhymes.
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Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh View PostI get where you're coming.
Many of his songs do lack emotion.
While he has great lyrics and song ideas.
If he could show some more emotion and allow his voice to, as Kanye says, "cut through the beat", More people would feel him.
A lot of that stuff does go back to the studio though.
For example if he would've doubled his verse on Young Jeezy's My President is Black, it would've sounded more live.
When you listen to Pac and Nas, Pac's feeling on a track gives you the impression that he's been through what he's talking, whereas Nas' lack of feeling gives you the impression that he's only seen what he's talking about and hasn't actually been through it. Some people might argue that they don't care what a rapper's been through or that all of these rappers have a little fakeness about them, but at the end of the day this rap **** (especially when it comes to "lyrical rappers", not "musical rappers") is rhetoric. And as artists, these guys should master more than one way to appeal to their audience. Not just lyrics, not just flow, not just feeling, but a combination of it all.
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Originally posted by el guason456 View Posti may be wrong, but are you guys referring to Charisma?
He needs to make the moods vary from song to song.
While some may say the beat is what carries the mood, I think the rappers tone on a song also plays a major part in setting the mood.
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Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh View PostNot so much charisma, just the mood he sets with his songs.
He needs to make the moods vary from song to song.
While some may say the beat is what carries the mood, I think the rappers tone on a song also plays a major part in setting the mood.
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Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh View PostI get where you're coming.
Many of his songs do lack emotion.
While he has great lyrics and song ideas.
If he could show some more emotion and allow his voice to, as Kanye says, "cut through the beat", More people would feel him.
A lot of that stuff does go back to the studio though.
For example if he would've doubled his verse on Young Jeezy's My President is Black, it would've sounded more live.
When you listen to Pac and Nas, Pac's feeling on a track gives you the impression that he's been through what he's talking, whereas Nas' lack of feeling gives you the impression that he's only seen what he's talking about and hasn't actually been through it. Some people might argue that they don't care what a rapper's been through or that all of these rappers have a little fakeness about them, but at the end of the day this rap **** (especially when it comes to "lyrical rappers", not "musical rappers") is rhetoric. And as artists, these guys should master more than one way to appeal to their audience. Not just lyrics, not just flow, not just feeling, but a combination of it all.
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Originally posted by VERSATILE2K9 View PostIt makes the listener feel it more in their own personal environment or life.
Originally posted by res View PostI understand although i don't buy the "been through" argument. Neither Nas or pac were big time gangstas or anything but I would gamble that Nas saw more. It's more a personality thing. Now art is about expression and bringing whatever personality is called for to what your delivering so I still see your point, but I can never rate passion over complexity of flow and lyrics. If those more passionate rappers had Nas' flow and lyrics they would be better than him.
As for your comment about never being able to rate passion over complexity of flow and lyrics, that's acceptable. But some people see it the other way around. It all goes back to what you like when it comes to appreciating an artist.
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Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh View PostExactly.
I pretty much agree with everything you said, but I am aware that neither Nas or Pac were not big time gangsters. I am simply speaking on the illusion passion is able to create in music.
As for your comment about never being able to rate passion over complexity of flow and lyrics, that's acceptable. But some people see it the other way around. It all goes back to what you like when it comes to appreciating an artist.
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Originally posted by el guason456 View PostThere's no days, for broke days, we sell it, smoke pays
While all the old folks pray, to Je-sus' soakin they sins in trays
of holy water, odds against Nas are slaughter
Thinkin a word best describin my life, to name my daughter
Tell me that's not emotional
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