VH1's 100 Greatest Hip Hop Tracks, T.R.O.Y at 90 but Kid N' Play at 63?

[neils7147933]

I did this list off the top of my head, so I reserve the right to say "yeah, I forgot that one..."

Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You
Dr. Dre featuring Snoop Doggy Dogg - Nuthin' But A G Thang
LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out
Notorious BIG - Juicy
Eazy - E - Boyz N The Hood
Wu-Tang Clan - Triumph
Young MC - Bust a Move
DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - Summertime
Naughty by Nature - OPP
Public Enemy - Can't Truss It
MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This
Digable Planets - Rebirth of Slick (Cool Like Dat)
Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain
Beastie Boys - Fight for Your Right to Party
Grandmaster Flash - The Message
Kurtis Blow - The Breaks
Sugarhill Gang - Rappers Delight
Ice Cube - It Was a Good Day
Black Sheep - The Choice is Yours
Vanilla Ice - Ice, Ice Baby
Wrexxx N Effect - Rump Shaker
Sir Mix-a-Lot - Baby Got Back
Eminem - Stan
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
House of Pain - Jump Around
Grand Puba - 360 What Goes Around Comes Around
EPMD - Crossover
Gang Starr featuring Nice & Smooth - DWYCK
A Tribe Called Quest - Electric Relaxation
Da Brat - Funkdafied
Warren G - Regulate
Kid N Play - Ain't Gonna Hurt Nobody
Kriss Kross - Jump
Digital Underground - The Humpty Dance
LL Cool J - Around the Way Girl
Fugees - Nappy Heads Remix
JJ Fad - Supersonic
Skee-Lo - I wish
Ahmad - Back in the Day
Arrested Development - Tennessee
Coolio - Fantastic Voyage
TWDY - Players Holiday
Too Short - I Wanna Be Free and that's the Truth
MC Lyte - Ruffneck
Daz Dillinger - In California
Slick Rick - Children's Story
Run-DMC - Rock Box
Run-DMC featuring Pete Rock & CL Smooth - Down with the King
2Pac - Brenda's Got a Baby
Geto Boys - Mind Playing Tricks on Me
Method Man - Bring the Pain
Jay-Z - Can't Knock the Hustle
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Gin & Juice
Public Enemy - Fight the Power
Dr. Dre featuring Eminem - Forgot About Dre
E-40 - Sprinkle Me
Rappin 4-Tay - Playaz Club
Lucas - Lucas With the Lid Off
Outkast - Players Ball
Outkast - Ms. Jackson
50 Cent - In the Club
Domino - Getto Jam
Nelly - Hot **** (Country Grammar)
LL Cool J - Loungin (Remix)
Salt N Pepa - Shoop
Ludacris - What's Your Fantasy?
N2Deep - Back 2 The Hotel
Rob Base & DJ EZ Rock - It Takes 2
Grandmaster Flash - White Lines (Don't Do It)
Mobb Deep - Shook Ones Part 2
Notorious BIG, Puff Daddy & Mase - Mo Money Mo Problems
Nas - Hero
Master P featuring Mia X - Bout It Bout It
Scarface - Til I Seen a Man Die
Lighter Shade of Brown - Hey DJ
2Pac - I Get Around
Eric B and Rakim - Eric B is President
Onyx - Slam
Tag Team - Whoomp! There It Is
Foxy Brown featuring Jay-Z - I'll Be
Craig Mack - Flava in Ya Ear
Eminem - My Name Is
Nas - It Ain't Hard to Tell
Heavy D and the Boyz - Now That We've Found Love
Tha Dogg Pound - Let's Play House
Positive K - I Got A Man
Paperboy - Ditty
Bone Thugs N Harmony - Thuggish Ruggish Bone
Nelly, Paul Wall, Gipp & Ali - Grillz
Big Pun - Still Not a Player
Ice Cube & Krayzie Bone - Until We Rich
Common - I Used to Love HER
Kanye West - Good Life
Angie Martinez - If I could Go
De La Soul - Buddy
DMX - Ruff Riders Anthem
The DOC - It's Funky Enough
3rd Bass - Pop Goes the Weasel
Bubba Sparxxx - Ugly
Mista Grimm - Indo Smoke

[black.ink]

Not enough Nas or Wu Tang. No Brand Nubian or Roots? This list is pretty bad. Where's 'Ice Ice Baby'?

[Floyd Sinclair]

How is hate it or love it and some of them other songs ahead of Nas-One Love and common-I used to love Her?

Vh1 lost

[Kobe Bryant]

Wu-Tang- CREAM
2Pac- California Love
Biggie- Juicy
Ice Cube- It Was A Good Day
Eazy - E - Boyz N The Hood
Dr. Dre featuring Snoop Doggy Dogg - Nuthin' But A G Thang
Warren G - Regulate
Snoop Dogg- Doggy Dog World
2Pac- Keep Yah Head
Eric B and Rakim- Pain In Full
Notorious BIG, Puff Daddy & Mase - Mo Money Mo Problems
Nas- The World is Yours

Okay here's my top 10 even though it's 12. All of these could legitimately make a top ten list. It is really hard to condense this list.There were a lot of great songs/single in the 90's. And this list is west coast heavy. No biased being showed it's just that the gangsta sound was felt in a heavy way in the 90's.

[Truth]

lef, gettin excited for the nba preseason? do you get the laker games over there?

[Kobe Bryant]

Yeah it's covered. KCal 9 will probably air all of the preseason games in Hawaii. Should be a fun season. Hopefully it ends with gold.

[Truth]

Yeah it's covered. KCal 9 will probably air all of the preseason games in Hawaii. Should be a fun season. Hopefully it ends with gold.

sick. yeah over here its comcast sports net that shows all the celtic games. i can't ****ing wait man. i'm about to buy nba 2k9 next week...i love this time of year.

[oldgringo]

I think any list has to include:

I Used to Love HER
Nature of the Threat
Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos
Fight The Power
TROY
Rappers Delight
Walk This Way
Eric B. is President
Nuthin But a G Thang
The Message

Those are 10 universally great/influential/historic songs in hip hop. Neils you put together a good list for 100 songs off the top. I think I did that before quite awhile back, I'll try and find it.

[res]

Kid N Play is better than a few people on that list, including 50 cent.


I think what vh1 means when it makes lists like this is "most classic" not "greatest".

[neils7147933]

Kid N Play is better than a few people on that list, including 50 cent.


I think what vh1 means when it makes lists like this is "most classic" not "greatest".

There are some great singles out there from some bad artists; I even would have included Snow's "Informer" but I didn't consider it 'rappy' enough, same as stuff off of Kid Rock's first major album etc.

Memorable, catchy, danceable, fun, lasting...there are different criteria ranking singles vs. albums and artists for sure...

You'll never see me doing a tough critique, listing Sir Mix A Lot on a "Best of" anything...