The Key To An East-Coast Comeback.

[res]

Eastcoast success has always worked by having a "lyrical playa" rapper at the center of things with more serious rappers around him. The lyrical Playa sets the high lyrical standard for everyone else to follow but he talked about stuff that would bring in the mainstream audience. By setting a high lyrical standard he got the rap audience focused on lyrics and that opened the door to deeper lyrical acts. First it was Kane and Rakim in the late 80's. Kane was the "lyrical playa" rapper he got everyone focused on his lyrical skill, but was doing it by talking about how straight he was, how much money he made, how many women he got, stuff the mainstream could eat up. Then their was Rakim who kicked it about pursuing the right path in life, "self knowledge" and all of that stuff. In the 90's the same was the case with Biggie and Nas. Biggie talked about dealing and women and Nas kicked knowledge.

The problem with alot of the Eastcoast now is that everyone is trying to be the next Nas, they think that is the key to bringing back the Eastcoast. it's funny because when Bigggie was alive, and afterward, everyone here was trying to be the next Biggie. Jay Z finally succeeded with it . Now in the post-Jay Z world everyone here is trying to be the next Nas. What the East Coast needs now is another lyrical Playa. Someone who is on point lyrically but who still has the Playa image. That is what gets people thinking about lyrical content and opens the door to the new "Nases". East Coast Hip Hop has never worked by the Conscious rapper being the center-stage act.

[Kobe Bryant]

I see your point. Swag and lyrics. But the game has moved into a different direction. There are no future NY artists who have the potential to blow at the moment.

[res]

There are no future NY artists who have the potential to blow at the moment.

That was part of my point, one of the reasons for that very fact in my opinion is because most of them came up thinking that being a good emcee meant trying to become the next Nas.

[Kobe Bryant]

That was part of my point, one of the reasons for that very fact in my opinion is because most of them came up thinking that being a good emcee meant trying to become the next Nas.

I don't think so. Look how many emcees have come and tried to do what Jay did. Same flow, same formula. You have to be original. There aren't any Nas' out there period. The only other guy from the east coast that's deep and talks about social issues is Talib and he's his own artist. Mos Def doesn't count because he stopped rapping all together.

Nas is in a class of his own. I haven't really heard any new arist come out that reminds me of Nas. The only person I can think of is Lupe.

[res]

Nas is in a class of his own. I haven't really heard any new arist come out that reminds me of Nas. The only person I can think of is Lupe.

No I meant TRYING to be like Nas, you know, cat's like Saigon, part gangsta, part conscious. Lupe is just a pure conscious rapper, that's different. I guess I'm also talking about the buzz around here, the way people talk, and the mindset of a alot of completely underground emcees in the area trying to make it.

[flipside]

have the biggest southern rap star die one way or another and then promote the **** out of new rappers calling them the next whoever that southern rapper is. sound familiar?

[aristotlemoses]

i dunno there is still a lot of good new york and rappers from the northern east coast. but its just not what the public is ****in with right now. saigon is one of the best lyricists out there but i dont think hell blow. pap is alright hes got that swag that woulda made him blow back in the day. i like dudes like them and joell ortiz whos pretty nice on the mic. but i dont think any of them will get to the likes of nas or jay z or whomever.

[res]

i dunno there is still a lot of good new york and rappers from the northern east coast. but its just not what the public is ****in with right now. saigon is one of the best lyricists out there but i dont think hell blow. pap is alright hes got that swag that woulda made him blow back in the day. i like dudes like them and joell ortiz whos pretty nice on the mic. but i dont think any of them will get to the likes of nas or jay z or whomever.

Yeah both Saigon and Joel Ortiz are in the Nas mold. Pap is sort of a demonstration of how the importance of image has been forgotten, he's a classic example of the emcee that believes that being a professional rapper is just putting lyrics together. That really isn't true if your not a conscious rapper.

[Run]

They key clearly, is MF Doom.



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[MetalVomit]

They key clearly, is MF Doom.

trippin off the beat kinda
drippin off the meat grinder