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    #1

    ..Do Album Sales Determine Greatness?...

    This was sparked by a thread ROSEWOOD started where he acted as if Lil' Wayne was certified as TRULY great simply due to album sales.

    So, I ask the question... Do album sales determine greatness?

    Vote. Discuss.
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    Yes, fans ALWAYS know who the greatest is.
    13.64%
    3
    No, the two aren't even really connected nowadays.
    63.64%
    14
    All I know is that Lil' Wayne sucks.
    22.73%
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    #2
    Not at all.

    The underground contains some of the best emcees alive yet they don't sell well at all!

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      #3
      Originally posted by C-Drone View Post
      This was sparked by a thread ROSEWOOD started where he acted as if Lil' Wayne was certified as TRULY great simply due to album sales.

      So, I ask the question... Do album sales determine greatness?

      Vote. Discuss.
      Fool, I never said that record sales determines greatness....But I will say its appart of the entire scope...Check the King of Pop..He had all the tools to define his greatness, including album sales..Wayne is a Great artist..He'll continue to piss on you hater with every feature & album dropped..

      There are great artist that can't sale a bee-bee....

      Now tell me this, how many artist besides Lil Wayne, Kanye, 50 & Usher can get damn near 1 million bootleg hits and still sell 1 million original copies???

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        #4
        no... from my understanding u buy a CD before u heard it?

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          #5
          No way, Effective marketing is the way to make an album a success nowadays. You can take any moron who makes random noises and whose lyrics dont make any sense at all, but bombard people with marketing by say its hip and cool and people will start to believe it.

          Case in point Soulja Boy!

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            #6
            Originally posted by The Womble Don View Post
            No way, Effective marketing is the way to make an album a success nowadays. You can take any moron who makes random noises and whose lyrics dont make any sense at all, but bombard people with marketing by say its hip and cool and people will start to believe it.

            Case in point Soulja Boy!
            Well said!

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              #7
              Originally posted by ROSEWOOD View Post
              Fool, I never said that record sales determines greatness....But I will say its appart of the entire scope...Check the King of Pop..He had all the tools to define his greatness, including album sales..Wayne is a Great artist..He'll continue to piss on you hater with every feature & album dropped..

              There are great artist that can't sale a bee-bee....

              Now tell me this, how many artist besides Lil Wayne, Kanye, 50 & Usher can get damn near 1 million bootleg hits and still sell 1 million original copies???
              Not many. So? I don't think Usher or 50 are great either.

              One-hit wonders sell a million copies. It's only impressive to an extent because Wayne did it nowadays which is hard to do. NSync wasn't a great group and their numbers **** Lil' Wayne.

              Sales can help you tell if a lot of people think someone is great, sure. But, it doesn't mean those people aren't wrong. In Wayne's case, they are closer to being wrong than right. He's above average. And he'd be looked at by me as a lot better if he would humble himself and realize his wordplay (which, next to his swagger, is his best attribute) is not close to ACTUAL greats like Big Pun, Big L, or even current undergroiund artists. He's not even the best in the south.

              Outkast, Scarface, Chamillionaire, T.I., Ludacris.. all better than Wayne.

              As a truly CLASSIC artist, sales are usually involved. But, just because he has the sales, doesn't mean he's a great artist. Not one bit. He should try making some songs that actually have a meaning and point behind them. He's making his music at the right time. He's not making timeless music.

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                #8
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                no... from my understanding u buy a CD before u heard it?

                Generally how it works. Though with the Internet and bootlegging, that depends.

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                  #9
                  Nope. Only kids buy albums. Meaning talentless fake ass *****s sell loads like Ross and Soulja Boy.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ROSEWOOD View Post
                    Fool, I never said that record sales determines greatness....
                    Really.... I'm curious, how did you vote?

                    Furthermore, he wont ever piss on me. Ever. I'd be willing to bet that I rap better than him, and that most knowledgeable hip hop heads would atest to that.

                    Regardless of if that's true or not, it's not important. He still is only above average. I doubt any album he sells after this comes CLOSE to selling what this album does in total, let alone in it's first week. He had a nice run, good peak. Great for him. I don't hate the guy.

                    But, he's above average at best.

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