..Do Album Sales Determine Greatness?...

[Sttuddahboy619]

The answer is no.There have been many one hit wonders out there who sold millions but none of them are great emcees!I chose the last option because it's true and it made me laugh!

[THe TRiNiTY]

I feel that...Even your old schoolers sang about the same ****..Love Women so Lonely etc..It the nature of the beast playa..

Doesn't mean I have to like it, listen to it, or respect it.

[ROSEWOOD]

So, he could withstand the onslauaght of Pac, but isn't great by your standards since both he and Pun released virtually the same amount of material, while alive.

Yeah..... that makes sense.

Furthermore, if Jay-Z wasn't **** and neither was Nas.. please believe that Wayne would be off shooting himself somewhere for local publicity.

Yea I take that back..Biggie was a great...I stand corrected...And yes even Wayne wouldn't have existed..

[THe TRiNiTY]

Yea I take that back..Biggie was a great...I stand corrected...And yes even Wayne wouldn't have existed..

Fair enough.

[ROSEWOOD]

In terms of most of those r&b singers, they have writers. So, they're not even the ones making the hits.

And hits can happen for a lot of people. It's great, and it is a skill. It doens't mean you're great.

A HIT, doesn't equal skill, but constant hits, sure. Still don't equal greatness.

Ok well just what the **** doe define greatness...Our standard are totally different I see..

[ROSEWOOD]

Doesn't mean I have to like it, listen to it, or respect it.

You have to listen to Ashford and simpson is you like old school music or music period...They wrong and made the beat for about 40% of the entire music ever made..They loved LOVE..but they're the ****

[THe TRiNiTY]

Ok well just what the **** doe define greatness...Our standard are totally different I see..

Greatness is determined by timeless music. Music that affects peoples lives in NUMEROUS ways, not just about one subject. Music that can take you back to a moment in your life like NO OTHER SONG. In great ways, not just.. 'Damn, Lollipop reminds me of that one ******* I got that one time....' In REAL WAYS. Ways that can change your mood. For better or worse.

Music that affects how other artists create music. Trend setting. Music that actually starts ACTUAL movements, not the **** that most consider a movement nowadays. Wayne can PARTIALLY do that, though he swagger jacked Jim Jones in terms of style and the voice **** from T-Pain and Roger Troutman before him.

Music that is a big enough hit to touch enough people, but isn't like the norm on the radio. Something outside of the box, something that can still be a big hit, maybe isn't but could be, but doesn't just follow a cookie cutter image. Something different.

Wayne, just doesn't qualify yet. Though, with how long he's been in the game, he's still young. Maybe next album. Maybe he'll talk about something different.

His two best, RECENT songs, I Miss My Dawgs and Shooters. Both about SOMETHING. That's not a coincidence.

[ROSEWOOD]

Greatness is determined by timeless music. Music that affects peoples lives in NUMEROUS ways, not just about one subject. Music that can take you back to a moment in your life like NO OTHER SONG. In great ways, not just.. 'Damn, Lollipop reminds me of that one ******* I got that one time....' In REAL WAYS. Ways that can change your mood. For better or worse.

Music that affects how other artists create music. Trend setting. Music that actually starts ACTUAL movements, not the **** that most consider a movement nowadays. Wayne can PARTIALLY do that, though he swagger jacked Jim Jones in terms of style and the voice **** from T-Pain and Roger Troutman before him.

Music that is a big enough hit to touch enough people, but isn't like the norm on the radio. Something outside of the box, something that can still be a big hit, maybe isn't but could be, but doesn't just follow a cookie cutter image. Something different.

Wayne, just doesn't qualify yet. Though, with how long he's been in the game, he's still young. Maybe next album. Maybe he'll talk about something different.

His two best, RECENT songs, I Miss My Dawgs and Shooters. Both about SOMETHING. That's not a coincidence.

I completely understand!

My finger are tired playa and I didn't even typr much..Thanks for the debate playa

[THe TRiNiTY]

I completely understand!

My finger are tired playa and I didn't even typr much..Thanks for the debate playa

Likewise...

[Kobe Bryant]

Nas put out Illmatic and It Was Written while Pac was alive. Nas has always been a major player in the game.