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best rapper in the late 90s and early 2000s
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Originally posted by Atnan View Postwhy did you put em ont hat poll....are you ****ing crazi....i could easily write a verse on killing my mom, raping my wife and scream it like a ***** over a dr. dre beat and easily go platinum! em isnt even that nice, he got his ass handed to him in a freestyle battle live on hbo by some cornball ( who was white himself)
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Em is top 15 doa... 50 is garbage...
but none come closer to Nas............ lyrically....
em has badass production same with 50 however em is sick and his verses are lyrical genius but i feel his gone down the wrong root.. he should stick to his own game instead of making average albums. Encore was garbage but because it was em it sold millions....
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Originally posted by fasman View PostEm is top 15 doa... 50 is garbage...
but none come closer to Nas............ lyrically....
em has badass production same with 50 however em is sick and his verses are lyrical genius but i feel his gone down the wrong root.. he should stick to his own game instead of making average albums. Encore was garbage but because it was em it sold millions....
People like to bring up him having Dr. Dre. Lets not forget Jay-Z had Jus Blaze AND Kanye West, which imo is even better.
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Originally posted by Atnan View Postwhy did you put em ont hat poll....are you ****ing crazi....i could easily write a verse on killing my mom, raping my wife and scream it like a ***** over a dr. dre beat
i still don't know what songs their are refering to when they talk about how great this guy is.
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Originally posted by res View PostLOL!!!!
i still don't know what songs their are refering to when they talk about how great this guy is.
Renegade with Jay-Z
Scary Movie with the underrated Royce Da 5'9
We All Die One Day with G-Unit/Obie I love this song (bad quality)
These are all good examples of Eminem's talent.
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Originally posted by -Antonio- View PostI understand he has gimmick songs, and popish type songs, but he has some great material too.
Renegade with Jay-Z
Scary Movie with the underrated Royce Da 5'9
We All Die One Day with G-Unit/Obie I love this song (bad quality)
These are all good examples of Eminem's talent.
I heard alot about this verse from renegade before I actually heard it. I even saw someone somewhere post (on another site) that it was better than anything Rakim ever did. Personally i don't get the appeal. The flow was good I suppose but the punchlines were average and his voice was annoying as usual. I don't know, when i hear him it almost dosen't even sound like he's rapping; he sounds like some kind of high pitched voice comedian or something.
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the bottom line is this, eminem is arguably the best rapper alive. he is also top 5 of all time imo. i mean, people say he'll never be a pac, and why is that? i'll explain, because he's eminem, and he's his own rapper. pac lead a movement, but really this didn't come to light until after he died. his death made him so big, and you can agree or disagree, but imo it did. pac was big when he was alive, but after he died, most everyone jumped on the bandwagon. they fed off of his death. eminem led a movement when he was alive. he revolutionized hiphop just like tupac did. eminem is a white rapper, so he'll never get the real credit he deserves like tupac did after pac died. pac was controversial, and so was eminem and it was blatantly obvious. eminem was a much better lyricist than tupac with much better rhyme scheme and a better flow. people like to disregard em's serious songs and people on this forum tend to type in things like, "all em did was talk about goofy ****, and his mom, and wife. he's too silly, so he isn't an all time great." then when em switches it up a little bit and talks about serious issues, then you guys type in, "well, em ain't no ganster, he's fake, he's this, he's that." you guys flip flop more than john kerry. you guys contradict yourselves so much, that even if i bring up your contradictions, you'll find a way to contradict your contradicitons. it's sad really. i mean, rather than giving the man his dues, and seeing true talent, you guys would rather say his voice is annoying and he is a piece of ****. what the hell kind of argument is that? i find myself responding to this crap more than actual, respectable arguments, because i can't recall reading one argument from res or scrappy diggs that wasn't full **** insults and contradictary points. both of these guys have no good points in their posts ever. they don't have to lik eminem at all, but their reasoning and logic is so retarted, it's actually saddens me to read them.
res talks about punchlines from eminem in renegades. hello, dumbass, the song wasn't a punchline song. i really believe that you don't truly know em's music besides from his singles and what people say about his album, mainly encore. instead of listening to the song and the message of the song, you look for punchlines? you make me sick man. at that point and time, em was a controversial figure in hiphop, and recieved a lot of criticism for his music, which he wasn't afraid to touch on controversial subjects in it. he also was considered a bad influence on kids especially on kids who were bullied in school(mainly highschool). i also think around that time we had the whole columbine massacre fiasco that took place. em was touching on subjects that were different from rap legends like jay z, nas, dmx, and others. he couldn't relate with being from the hood as a black man. he was from the trailors, and he was bullied, and he had to overcome adversity as a youth seeing how he wanted to rap and he was white. the man has overcome so much turmoil in his life due to his music and songs like renegades, the way i am, white america, we as americans, rememer me, and more songs that dealt with controversial subjects that he was in some fashion involved around due to his musci. he is truly a concious artist and songs like renegades is just small example of this. i don't care if you poeple can't stand eminem's musci or even him, you can't deny his impact in rap music, and how he revolutionized the rap game, can't be taken away from him. he is a god mc. deal with it.
if you guys want me to explain more, no problem. all you have to do is post like res and scrappy diggs. that way you really can't respond back to me with any substance seeing how i responded to nonsense to begin with.
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