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    Do you believe in fate and destiny?

    Meaning the events in your life are predetermined and there's nothing you can do to change them. You basically live out whatever story was written for you and can't change it for better or worst. If you do believe it, would you consider sins and good deeds meaningless? How can you be punished or praised for something predetermined by divinity?

    #2
    Not sure about destiny but I do believe in karma.

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      #3
      No. I don't believe in karma or destiny. I do believe that is you live your life in such a way that you are making a lot of poor choices or hurting people that eventually the odds catch up with you. In most cases, not all. There are people who live clean lives, abide by laws, respect and help others, and still end up on the losing end.

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        #4
        Sometimes.

        I think it's curious evolution focuses so much on the past and so little on the future.

        Giant bears from 100K years ago are still bears. A smart bear and a dumb bear are both bears. A capable bear and a lame bear are both bears. You can't make a bear be an elephant. You can change the bear drastically over time to fill the niche the elephant fills presently, but, that bear would still be a bear, he'd do bear things.

        As we go back through fossil records saying this is relative to that, and this became that, those things don't break out of commonality. Is it a shock to find bears are more closely related to dogs than they are cats? Not even a little huh? Because bears act and look more similar to dog than cats no one should be shocked genetically speaking bears and dogs are much much more similar to one another than either is to any cat that ever existed.

        When you back far enough and find the common ancestor you find a thing that's very much a bear-dog.

        I'm not sold on the idea that evolution means a total break from commonality. I'm fairly certain Bear-Dog never had a choice but to become Bear and Dog. I can't say where they go from here because evolution gives no ****s about speculation on the future, but, I think it's pretty safe to say even if a bear takes to the ocean and becomes an ocean predator he'd to it bearishly.

        I reckon T-Rex was always destined to be a chicken.

        We were always meant to judge things and decide what to preserve and what to destroy. Waterfall = good, invasive species = bad, it is our purpose to decide these things and just being alive fulfills destiny.

        You have opinions? Yeah, because you were always meant to.

        Then again, it's all a load of bull that doesn't mean much of **** and if you actively write your own story that **** does seem very much to work.

        I realize those are not counter intuitive, but, I'm just saying not even I believe myself I just think it's interesting to think about.

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          #5
          I think you make your own destiny with every decision and action you make. But all that predestination shti is bad Christian teaching by those crazy puritans who tried to scare the crap out of people hundreds of years ago. Life is about doing things wrong at the start then slowly 'getting it' i.e finding your true self, trying to live in accordance with nature and not negatively interfering in the lives of others and stuff like that.
          Every saint was a sinner, I think someone once said. Your destiny can be changed at any point.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Beercules View Post
            Not sure about destiny but I do believe in karma.
            That's a tough one for me...Karma as a force, I'm not sure of, although I have seen it at work, unless its just convenient coincidence. However, I think if you live, or operate in a certain way, certain outcomes are more likely to happen based on your direct actions. But I don't rule out the possibility by any means.

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              #7
              I believe in both fate and destiny. Yes, you have free will even if your destiny is determined

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                #8
                Originally posted by millcitymauler View Post
                That's a tough one for me...Karma as a force, I'm not sure of, although I have seen it at work, unless its just convenient coincidence. However, I think if you live, or operate in a certain way, certain outcomes are more likely to happen based on your direct actions. But I don't rule out the possibility by any means.
                Yes. Just be a good person basically.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by shootingcrew View Post
                  I believe in both fate and destiny. Yes, you have free will even if your destiny is determined
                  I don't believe in fate as that would mean our lives are predetermined and I believe we were created with free will. Our future is based on our life choices. The only destiny that all of us face is death. It is the one thing you can't escape but if you made the correct choices in your life you can escape eternal death.

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                    #10
                    I don't believe in it.

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