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    #31
    Originally posted by AD86 View Post
    Torture for information only works if the person actually has any information to give, if they don't then its just a fun way to pass the time.
    I'll tell you this much; if I were being tortured by any state, I'd give them false information on purpose, just to spite them.

    There's no guarantee they wouldn't kill me, anyway, so I might as well do some damage before they finish me off.
    Last edited by TheLennox; 01-26-2017, 03:57 PM.

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      #32
      The SoD and head of the CIA under ***** are against it. A bit strange since it has worked in the past. Beyond the efficacy, it is important for the ******ed cavemen Islamists to fear and feel dread. I say go medieval on them, and only them.

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        #33
        Originally posted by TheLennox View Post
        I'll tell you this much; if I were being tortured by any state, I'd give them false information on purpose, just to spite them.

        There's no guarantee they wouldn't kill me, anyway, so I might as well do some damage before they finish me off.
        You imagine having far more power than you would actually have.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Mukuro View Post
          You imagine having far more power than you would actually have.
          I have all the power I need; they want information, and I can alter that information however I want to spite them.

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            #35
            Originally posted by TheLennox View Post
            I have all the power I need; they want information, and I can alter that information however I want to spite them.
            Not really how it works they torture you because they can, they keep you alive by force and the only way the torture stops is if you provide them with something useful. You have no power at all if its done properly you long for the day they kill you.

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              #36
              Originally posted by AD86 View Post
              Not really how it works they torture you because they can, they keep you alive by force and the only way the torture stops is if you provide them with something useful. You have no power at all if its done properly you long for the day they kill you.
              And? I'm sure I would look forward to death; that doesn't stop me from giving them false information.

              If it's the last thing I do, I will give them false information.

              I'd probably even craft it so that they think it's helpful and then fall into a trap. Again, I'd do it just to spite them before they finish me off.

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                #37
                Originally posted by TheLennox View Post
                I have all the power I need; they want information, and I can alter that information however I want to spite them.
                Right, and in your mind this will cause them tremendous damage and they will angrily kill you. Cute, but not realistic.

                Here is what will actually happen. They will confirm whether or not it is true, assuming it even sounds plausible. Then, upon disbelieving you, they continue and escalate your torture until you break

                In this situation, you have NO control. It is a sign of your innocence that you can't comprehend that kind of reality.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mukuro View Post
                  Right, and in your mind this will cause them tremendous damage and they will angrily kill you. Cute, but not realistic.

                  Here is what will actually happen. They will confirm whether or not it is true, assuming it even sounds plausible. Then, upon disbelieving you, they continue and escalate your torture until you break

                  In this situation, you have NO control. It is a sign of your innocence that you can't comprehend that kind of reality.
                  I have all the control in the world because no one can force me to do something I don't want to do, no matter the imagined enemy. Anything done to me will infuriate me more, and, to the contrary, my resolve will strengthen.

                  Pain isn't that scary. Terrible, yes, but some things go beyond it. Will is one of them.

                  Some people don't fear death. If I'm already feeling the pain, there is nothing else to fear. I will take it for granted that my death is coming in a horrible way. How they torture me is irrelevant at that stage.

                  Breaking them, however, is all that holds relevance. We'll see how they do at verifying my information without suffering losses. If I knew anything I could use to set them up for death, I most certainly would.

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