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    #11
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
    Who cares whether its 16.5, 30 or 78 mil, the numbers are staggering.

    Mao was responsible for enacting social and economic policies that were destructive. The Great Chinese Famine was triggered by Mao's Great Leap Forward. It may not have been his intention to cause the famine but he was responsible for it due to his horrible economic planning and misunderstanding of the chinese peasants

    Yea the peasantry supported him because he broke the system that was basically enslaving them and gave them land, but them decimated them thru his policies and then kept them obedient thru propaganda, terror and an iron fist.
    Yes, some of the early famine was caused by human error, policies not executed correctly and natural disasters. That obviously wasn't the intention and certainty isn't Mao killing people.

    Kim jong um has the "support'' of his people as well
    Does he? Or does he rule on fear? Mao was universally respected by the peasants. He unified China, the standard of living dramatically increased, the life expectancy went from 35 to 65, and China's population nearly doubled in size under Mao. He brought China into the 20th century. Prior it was extremely poor, divided, backwads, and completely uneducated. Kim hasn't changed anything.

    For the record I'm not a Maoist. I just hate seeing ****** lists like this.
    Last edited by ИATAS; 03-12-2014, 12:08 AM.

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      #12
      we should thank them for helping the earth

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        #13
        What is Gowon doing on this?

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          #14
          how can the great chairman mao have caused a famine?

          there was no famine.

          china increased it's food exports and local communist party leaders reported food production growth during the time of this so called famine.

          western capitalist lies.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
            how can the great chairman mao have caused a famine?

            there was no famine.

            china increased it's food exports and local communist party leaders reported food production growth during the time of this so called famine.

            western capitalist lies.
            Mao himself said there were famines caused by mistakes.

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              #16
              Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
              Yes, some of the early famine was caused by human error, policies not executed correctly and natural disasters. That obviously wasn't the intention and certainty isn't Mao killing people.



              Does he? Or does he rule on fear? Mao was universally respected by the peasants. He unified China, the standard of living dramatically increased, the life expectancy went from 35 to 65, and China's population nearly doubled in size under Mao. He brought China into the 20th century. Prior it was extremely poor, divided, backwads, and completely uneducated. Kim hasn't changed anything.

              For the record I'm not a Maoist. I just hate seeing ****** lists like this.
              mao basically told the people, dont grow crops lets make steel.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
                Yes, some of the early famine was caused by human error, policies not executed correctly and natural disasters. That obviously wasn't the intention and certainty isn't Mao killing people.
                10's of millions were caused by an almost direct result of his policies along with mass murder, how is this not killing? Its like saying Hitler put ***s in concentration camps and they just died there, so he didnt "kill" them

                Does he? Or does he rule on fear? Mao was universally respected by the peasants. He unified China, the standard of living dramatically increased, the life expectancy went from 35 to 65, and China's population nearly doubled in size under Mao. He brought China into the 20th century. Prior it was extremely poor, divided, backwads, and completely uneducated. Kim hasn't changed anything.

                For the record I'm not a Maoist. I just hate seeing ****** lists like this.
                Mao didnt rule on fear? Lol Cmon. Kim Jong um is currently universally respected by his people as well, 100% of the votes!

                Direct executions, mass-suicides caused by persecution, and labour camps that killed many through over-work and poor conditions. Mao is largely responsible for the policies that caused these deaths, which are estimated to total between 30 and 40 million people. Certainly Mao was aware of the killing, and took no shame in his ordering of political executions, being quoted as saying "We must probably execute 10,000 to several tens of thousands of embezzlers nationwide before we can solve the problem." This certainly sounds like Kim

                Did good arise from him? Sure, but at the expense of being a ruthless human right violator who contributed to countless millions of deaths.

                Many of those on the list of dictators brought their nations to prosperity and power at one point; Stalin, Hitler, Tojo, etc
                Last edited by Russian Crushin; 03-12-2014, 12:43 AM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
                  10's of millions were caused by an almost direct result of his policies along with mass murder, how is this not killing? Its like saying Hitler put ***s in concentration camps and they just died there, so he didnt "kill" them
                  Come on Russian, You're better than that. Hitler obviously purposely killed ***s, tried to wipe them out. The great famine was caused by numerous factors, mainly poorly executed policy, as well as natural disaster.

                  Mao didnt rule on fear? Lol Cmon. Kim Jong um is currently universally respected by his people as well, 100% of the votes!
                  Not like Kim. The comparison is ridiculous. FYI Kim didn't get 100% of the votes from the people, it was 100% of government officials.

                  Direct executions, mass-suicides caused by persecution, and labour camps that killed many through over-work and poor conditions. Mao is largely responsible for the policies that caused these deaths, which are estimated to total between 30 and 40 million people. Certainly Mao was aware of the killing, and took no shame in his ordering of political executions, being quoted as saying "We must probably execute 10,000 to several tens of thousands of embezzlers nationwide before we can solve the problem." This certainly sounds like Kim
                  Absolutely nothing like Kim. I am also not stating Mao wasn't responsible for killings, he was as most everyone involved in war, revolution is. What I'm arguing is the extremely inflated number of 78 million.

                  Did good arise from him? Sure, but at the expense of being a ruthless human right violator who contributed to countless millions of deaths.
                  Of course. The Stalinist CCP led to the emergence of a deformed workers state. The Maoist leadership modelled itself on the Stalinist bureaucracy in the Soviet Union and suppressed any form of workers democracy, that was the main failure. Stalin however was much more ruthless with his purges, killing off the original Bolsheviks, communists, ***s, etc. He was by far more the evil tyrant.

                  With Mao, again, the majority of deaths were famine related. This was poor planning, execution, drought, natural disaster, etc. Obviously wasn't a plan to kill millions of people.
                  Last edited by ИATAS; 03-12-2014, 01:06 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
                    Mao himself said there were famines caused by mistakes.
                    no way.

                    the great chairman mao created policies like large agricultural communes, pest extermination, etc.

                    no way could there have been a famine under the mao.

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                      #20
                      Power comes from the barrel of a gun.

                      -Mao Tse Tung,Beloved by all, didn't rule by fear, innocent benevolent ruler, misunderstood by the west.

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