England and Canada have universal healthcare

[One_Tycoon]

what i have is chronic, the ER wont help me, just leave me with a huge bill.

No charity or help from your local community? No help from family?

[Weebler I]

No charity or help from your local community? No help from family?

No help from the health service?

It's a crappy situation tbh. I think even capitalists over here wouldn't part with the NHS imperfect as it may be.

[One_Tycoon]

No help from the health service?

It's a crappy situation tbh. I think even capitalists over here wouldn't part with the NHS imperfect as it may be.

Yeah...a lot of the self-described ************* over there is what we call socialist-collectivists over here. You know...kind of like that blue state ********** who claims to be for small govt and free markets but isn't too eager to really cut anything and always the first to concede to the other side with some compromise.

[Weebler I]

Yeah...a lot of the self-described ************* over there is what we call socialist-collectivists over here. You know...kind of like that blue state ********** who claims to be for small govt and free markets but isn't too eager to really cut anything and always the first to concede to the other side with some compromise.

I don't even think it's that, it's just that health-care is almost considered a natural right.

Not saying it's the right system for the United States, at least on a national scale but there surely has to be something better than what's currently in place.

[One_Tycoon]

I don't even think it's that, it's just that health-care is considered a natural right.

Not saying it's the right system for the United States.

Oh you're right. But that's because healthcare isn't a right...that would imply that a doctor is obligated to treat everybody for next to nothing, no matter what. A doctor doesn't just owe anybody his services and hours long surgery/labor unless they can get properly compensated for it...via free market forces. Now maybe this would be easy if all doctors were robots but they're not. That's why medical students from all over come to the U.S. because working long hours pays off here....for now. Because we know ***** and his ilk are gonna do something about it if they can have it their way.

[jaded]

Listen to what Graham Fenwick-Jones had to say about England's health care on Letterman

[Jim Jeffries]

I don't even think it's that, it's just that health-care is almost considered a natural right.

Not saying it's the right system for the United States, at least on a national scale but there surely has to be something better than what's currently in place.

What's odd is that the US currently spends 6 times the entire UK Department of Health (which includes NHS funding) budget on healthcare for our poor, disabled and elderly in the form of Medicare and Medicaid. But we only have 5 times your population. The problem is the exorbitant cost of healthcare in the US. In a stagnant economy, in its 6th consecutive year of high unemployment, that has had 5 straight trillion dollar deficits, I don't see how we can afford to massively increase entitlements ATM.

UK Department of Health : 101.5 billion pounds (162.4 billion US dollars.)
US Department of Health and Human Services (which includes Medicare and Medicaid) 940.9 billion US dollars.

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[D4thincarnation]

What's odd is that the US currently spends 6 times the entire British Department of Health (which includes NHS funding) budget on healthcare for our poor, disabled and elderly in the form of Medicare and Medicaid. But we only have 5 times your population. The problem is the exorbitant cost of healthcare in the US. In a stagnant economy, in its 6th consecutive year of high unemployment, that has had 5 straight trillion dollar deficits, I don't see how we can afford to massively increase entitlements ATM.

UK Department of Health : 101.5 billion pounds (162.4 billion US dollars.)
US Department of Health and Human Services (which includes Medicare and Medicaid) 940.9 billion US dollars.

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UK Population 63 million
USA Population 316 million

Your maths ain't too good is it?

There are a lot of people in poverty in the US, over 40 million. The USA has the biggest GDP of any large nation, it overflowing with money. But the rich C**** at the top don't give a F*** about any else and would rather their fellow man suffer and die than help them if that mean they would be out of pocket.

[Jim Jeffries]

UK Population 63 million
USA Population 316 million

Your maths ain't too good is it?

You mean 316 million isn't (pretty daggum close to) 5 times 63 million? Tell me more.

There are a lot of people in poverty in the US, over 40 million.

Most of whom have high speed internet, a car, air conditioning and a plasma TV. Poverty is a relative term.

The USA has the biggest GDP of any large nation

Largely because it has 314 million people.

it overflowing with money.

Actually it is drowning in 17 trillion of debt.

But the rich C**** at the top don't give a F*** about any else and would rather their fellow man suffer and die than help them if that mean they would be out of pocket.

Which is why they spend 2 trillion a year in entitlements (almost the entire GDP of the UK.)

[D4thincarnation]

You mean 316 million isn't (pretty daggum close to) 5 times 63 million? Tell me more.

Well it a little out, but I will let you off.

Looking into Department of Health and Human Services, it seems it deal with a lot more medical aid.



So that is where the extra is spent, it not a fair comparison.