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Tommy Robinson of the EDL interview.
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I never said that, I simply said that the fact there are Sharia courts is bad enough. They should not exist since England is NOT a ****** country.
***s don't have ***ish only courts and don't go around blowing themselves up or hacking people to death in the streets of England.
Bad interpretation is the reason religion is so ridiculous, and nobody wants to BAN Islam. They just want these ******s to assimilate with English culture, I don't think that's asking too much.
There is a difference between problems of poverty and lack of education, and an ideology that is preaching something that is harmful. Just because people kill over jealousy and ***, does that mean we need to excuse people killing int he name of a religion?
Two wrongs don't negate each other.
There are many good things that people have used religion for, I don't dispute that. There's nothing though that a non religious person can't do, that a religious person can. So your point is moot.
I don't want religion banned, what I would want to see (like it happened in my own life) is that we pursue the truth, and build our societies based on moralities that we as people have agreed on. Not some 2000 year old religion that doesn't apply to our world anymore and wants to condone slavery, treats women like second hand citizens, wages Jihad, hates *******uals and other out of date thinking.
***'s have their own courts, schools and even ambulance services. They segregate more than anyone. They may not blow people up but some of their business practices are hated such as landlords agreeing to increase rent for shops in unison so that they all benefit and that shop owners have little choice to move out if they like the area.
Asking someone to assimilate to a culture? What culture? Tell me what a person needs to do in the US to assimilate to the US culture. I'll then tell you what a person needs to do in the UK to 'assimilate'.
Bad interpretation is bad interpretation. So do you blame someone or a law that Americans have a right to arms. If a man has a gun and chooses to shoot people in a Cinema, does that mean it is his fault of the fault of the land because guns is a right?
Again, these people who kill are individuals. In a name of religion or not, they are individuals. They may have decided that the way they think is right and do what they want. In London Black on Black gun crime is far worse than any other race. 2/3 in London of shootings are done by Black men. More than half of the robberies and street crime is done by black men.
Black men 'to blame for most violent city crime'... but they're also the victims
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So now what, do we ban black people walking the streets after 8 PM?
The people preaching to kill or whatever are the problem.
My point on religion has brought good to people is not moot. If the religion is the reason why these people are good, then credit the religion for it. I know people from all faiths, ******, Buddhism, Christianity etc... who are clearly good, decent people because of their strong faith.
What you want is to force people to believe in what they don't want. If they wanted it, they would be like you and follow what you believe in. However they have chosen to believe in a faith.
What you want is to take away freedom of religion. That is worse than anyone I have met who is religious.
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the edl are a bunch of fosters swilling benidorm holidaying untermenschen, but tommy robinson is a good speaker and i think it's good to have someone like him around, articulating things that others are afraid to say. why should we be tolerant towards an intolerant culture (islam)?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Master Chief View Post
Sharia Courts hold no power. It is not part of any law that people have to listen to here. They are more like an advice bureau. If people want to get advice then do so, you can get advice anywhere from the net or quite a few charities in the UK...
***'s have their own courts, schools and even ambulance services. They segregate more than anyone. They may not blow people up but some of their business practices are hated such as landlords agreeing to increase rent for shops in unison so that they all benefit and that shop owners have little choice to move out if they like the area.
Asking someone to assimilate to a culture? What culture? Tell me what a person needs to do in the US to assimilate to the US culture. I'll then tell you what a person needs to do in the UK to 'assimilate'.
Bad interpretation is bad interpretation. So do you blame someone or a law that Americans have a right to arms. If a man has a gun and chooses to shoot people in a Cinema, does that mean it is his fault of the fault of the land because guns is a right?
Again, these people who kill are individuals. In a name of religion or not, they are individuals. They may have decided that the way they think is right and do what they want. In London Black on Black gun crime is far worse than any other race. 2/3 in London of shootings are done by Black men. More than half of the robberies and street crime is done by black men.
Black men 'to blame for most violent city crime'... but they're also the victims
Read more:
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So now what, do we ban black people walking the streets after 8 PM?
The people preaching to kill or whatever are the problem.
My point on religion has brought good to people is not moot. If the religion is the reason why these people are good, then credit the religion for it. I know people from all faiths, ******, Buddhism, Christianity etc... who are clearly good, decent people because of their strong faith.
What you want is to force people to believe in what they don't want. If they wanted it, they would be like you and follow what you believe in. However they have chosen to believe in a faith.
What you want is to take away freedom of religion. That is worse than anyone I have met who is religious.
I don't care if you worship a tree, a rock, Jesus, Buddha or Allah, just keep that **** to yourself and don't think everyone else has to believe in it or even respect your beliefs.
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i cant watch this video cause im in work atm, but i can pretty much guess what its about. i imagine he's trying to convey that the EDL are not racist and ****** hating with a nice manner and centre left views. haha i smell BS son! its like trying to say the kk aren't racist.
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If they hold no power, then what is the purpose of having them?
You compared being a bad land lord to blowing yourself up?
Are you saying the U.S has not culture? Because it does and people do need to assimilate to it. It's being more American, understanding that we are a secular government where people have a right to worship as they want but that religion does not supersede the laws of the land.
Completely different argument, guns are not an ideology.
Being black is not an ideology, I don't know what so hard to understand about that. That's more of a socioeconomic reason, not an ideological one. Big difference and I'm tired of having to repeat myself.
It's not moot because while religion is a force for good in people's life, there's nothing a non believer can do as far as good is concerned, that a believer can. So I can be "good" just because I want to, not because some god is telling me to. Where as, many religious people do bad things IN THE NAME OF RELIGION, that non religious people aren't motivated by.
I don't want to force anyone to do anything. You can believe in whatever you want as long as it's not some radical ideology that is motivating people to butcher innocents on the streets, or strap bombs to themselves and kill people in crowded places.
I don't care if you worship a tree, a rock, Jesus, Buddha or Allah, just keep that **** to yourself and don't think everyone else has to believe in it or even respect your beliefs.
I mentioned one thing that some may hate some ***s for. Anything wrong with that? Do you have any issues with ***s having their own court etc...
I am asking you, what American culture is. Give me a good answer and I shall try to answer what British culture is and how to 'assimilate'. Simple question right?
Guns kill. It appears a lot of black people use guns in terms of % here. Do we ban blacks from walking the streets so that there is no black gun crime on the streets? Do we ban groups of black people because they could be part of a gang?
Ideology doesn't matter. At the end of the day, there are black men who use guns in a very high % in London. They are part of a group. Some are part of a gang 'culture'.
So do you know how many ******s there are in the UK and how many have used bombs or killed someone because of the religion or Terrorism? Can you number both please.
Many ******s will tell you there same. Believe in what YOU want, and let them believe in what they want. How many extremists have you met they have said they want to kill Americans? How many British ****** extremists have you met?
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I wonder what Tommy Robinson thinks about places like New Zealand, Australia and America where the natives were pushed out by war and imposed was the British way of living. Would he support the idea of all white people, regardless of where you were born, being sent back to britain? Because most of the ****** population in the UK are born and bred.
And to OP, you do realize that the sharia courts are completely voluntery? They've been set up to handle minor disputes.
And also what about ***ish courts in the US? They exist you know
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