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    Originally posted by THE REED?/strong> View Post
    I generally have to see it to believe it with players where I've never seen it in the first place... not from players who just showed me #1 potential the previous year, and not coming off an injury.
    You also completely ignored the reasons why Im straight on him.

    I had Welker last year I know what he can do ON the field. I dont know how much the Pats value him which is a problem for me.

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      Originally posted by Burning Phoenix View Post
      Shonne Greene is a servicable RB2 and a good FLEX, he's the lone workhorse for the team.

      Welker is a ppr Beast.

      Murray is an unproven player. a RB2 with RB1 potential.

      Flynn is FA Fodder...

      So you're trading a RB2 and WR1 for an RB2 with potential of being RB1... you tell me.
      Look I repeat Greene is a BUM fantasy wise. So is Flynn you wont catch neither on my roster and Im in deep league. Still not touching them.

      So again its Welker for Murray.

      Murray had ONLY 164 attempts with 864 yards averaging 5.5 per carry.

      Let that sink in.

      Then get back to me.

      Welker will have to also compete not only with the usaul suspects:

      Hernandez
      Gronkowski
      Branch


      Now he also has to deal with:

      Shane Vereen, Stevan Ridley, Jeff Demps, Brandon Lloyd, Viisante Shiancoe and Daniel Fells. Fells and Shinacoe started at tight end for their teams last year.


      No thanks.

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        Originally posted by Cigarillo View Post
        Look I repeat Greene is a BUM fantasy wise. So is Flynn you wont catch neither on my roster and Im in deep league. Still not touching them.

        So again its Welker for Murray.

        Murray had ONLY 164 attempts with 864 yards averaging 5.5 per carry.

        Let that sink in.

        Then get back to me.

        Welker will have to also compete not only with the usaul suspects:

        Hernandez
        Gronkowski
        Branch


        Now he also has to deal with:

        Shane Vereen, Stevan Ridley, Jeff Demps, Brandon Lloyd, Viisante Shiancoe and Daniel Fells. Fells and Shinacoe started at tight end for their teams last year.


        No thanks.
        Man there are always flash in the pans at RB.... Felix Jones, Jerome Harrison they are nothing to bank on the next season.

        If you are saying you believe in Demarco Murray based on a few games more then Wes Welker based ona few season then you gotta be crazy.

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          Originally posted by Cigarillo View Post
          Look I repeat Greene is a BUM fantasy wise. So is Flynn you wont catch neither on my roster and Im in deep league. Still not touching them.

          So again its Welker for Murray.

          Murray had ONLY 164 attempts with 864 yards averaging 5.5 per carry.

          Let that sink in.

          Then get back to me.

          Welker will have to also compete not only with the usaul suspects:

          Hernandez
          Gronkowski
          Branch


          Now he also has to deal with:

          Shane Vereen, Stevan Ridley, Jeff Demps, Brandon Lloyd, Viisante Shiancoe and Daniel Fells. Fells and Shinacoe started at tight end for their teams last year.


          No thanks.
          HE did last year and beasted.

          Branch isnt even on the team anymore.

          Greene had more fantasy value than Murray last year.

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            LOL. Reed is seriously on his fantasy shit, this year.

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              Originally posted by THE REED™ View Post
              HE did last year and beasted.

              Branch isnt even on the team anymore.

              Greene had more fantasy value than Murray last year.
              Reed what is with this Mel Kiper fantasy expert shyt this year? Lol. 2 years ago you were asking how to play slow down man. Im not trying to turn this into some pissing contest I truly dont care about the JV league but I had to step in they way you were blasting the guy. Hell Matt Flynn doesnt even start. I been playing a while you wont convince me that Shonn Greene is a relevant fantasy player hes not. Hes a RB3, rb4 at best. Branch got cut a couple of hours ago Reed. Literally hours ago.

              Also Reinforcing my points the Pats are shady as hell. On top of that.

              Lloyd, Fells, Demps and Shiancoe werent even on the team last year Reed. Vereen was hurt most of the year and Ridley was behind Green-Ellis? Thats 6 EXTRA players that Brady will get the ball too.

              Shonn Greene started pretty much every game he played. Murray was unknown until STL in his first game when he had like 250. Look at all the rankings. Hell with our scoring settings plugged in they have Murray as the Number 6 running back. Greene is ranked 43.

              If Murray starts all 16 the consensus is to expect a Top 5 RB year. Period across all scoring settings. No one saying Murray is Walter Payton but hes not some 4th string bum either. I wont hate on anyone who unloads Welker a guy with some real question marks for Murray a guy who was basically the Cowboys best player......as a rookie.


              This is my last comment on it. Hell the JV people arent even talking about it anymore. Im done.
              Last edited by B.U.R.N.E.R; 09-01-2012, 12:19 PM.

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                Originally posted by Cigarillo View Post
                Reed what is with this Mel Kiper fantasy expert shyt this year? Lol. 2 years ago you were asking how to play slow down man.
                Two years is a long ass time ago... slow down with what?

                Branch got cut a couple of hours ago Reed. Literally hours ago.
                He was released before you posted that.

                Also Reinforcing my points the Pats are shady as hell. On top of that.

                Lloyd, Fells, Demps and Shiancoe werent even on the team last year Reed. Vereen was hurt most of the year and Ridley was behind Green-Ellis? Thats 6 EXTRA players that Brady will get the ball too.
                Thats because I stopped reading halfway through your post.

                You can seriously try to dumb down Welker all you want, IDC, at this point I feel like a ****** for even carrying on this conversation with you.

                Shonn Greene started pretty much every game he played. Murray was unknown until STL in his first game when he had like 250. Look at all the rankings. Hell with our scoring settings plugged in they have Murray as the Number 6 running back. Greene is ranked 43.
                I know where everyone is ranked.... My point was you tried ****ting on Greene, who I, for the record, dont give a **** about... yet he still outscored Murray last year... I dont really care... Im not going to argue with you about whats inside Burners head for certain players.

                Great he he scored almost 900 yards on so many carries, he still didnt get the carries though.. and he scored TWO... TWO touchdowns all year.

                You wanna trade Welker for Murray.... LOL... go right ahead.

                If Murray starts all 16 the consensus is to expect a Top 5 RB year. Period across all scoring settings. No one saying Murray is Walter Payton but hes not some 4th string bum either.
                Never said he was... though I dont care about concensus... ask 10 experts and get 10 different answers.

                I wont hate on anyone who unloads Welker
                I dont care.


                This is my last comment on it. Hell the JV people arent even talking about it anymore. Im done.
                Thanks ****ing God.

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                  Just accepted a trade of Kevin Smith for Darius Hayward-Bay. I'm set at rb with sproles, gore, Donald brown, Cedric Benson, and Mendenhall. That should strengthen my weak receiver corps a bit.

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                    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
                    Just accepted a trade of Kevin Smith for Darius Hayward-Bay. I'm set at rb with sproles, gore, Donald brown, Cedric Benson, and Mendenhall. That should strengthen my weak receiver corps a bit.
                    Thats a nice set of backs....I think you couldve got more for Smith who will most like start every games hes healthy. Im a Lions homer and Kevin Smith bounced back big time last year. With that said though the Lions are trying to swing some trades for some running backs.

                    DHB one day has to reach his potential. He reminds me of McFadden. Your're a bust until you break out.

                    Sporles, Gore and Mendenhall for later when hes healthy. Cant go wrong there.

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                      You'd take Murray over McFadden?

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