Question about the Middle East

[Wizard]

...Nige please!!!! The terrorism commited on a daily basis by the middle eastern religious zealouts "out shines" by far anything that the KKK or the Timothy McVey's of the world could accomplish in one year of persistent attacks. It's an entire mindset and anti west way of thinking. The McVey's and KKK wanna be's are few and far between in the civilized world. "Death to infidels"!!! How many ******* to you get for killing infedels again??? Is it 19?? I can never remember the exact number but I know they are gonna get alot of quality pootie tang when they die for Allah. They certainly won't just become badly charred worm food for 20 years.

Rhetoric!!!!!


For one thing, ********* attacks are more common in the east because they are a war torn region because of oil that the U.S needs as they consume 20 percent of the worlds energy. The U.S has pulled strings in the middle east that have directly resulted in hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths. These people live in a totally different world where the "good guys"(the U.S) bomb civilians for their agenda's, so they do it to. It's just that the U.S makes them look evil.

[NiGe2011]

...Nige please!!!! The terrorism commited on a daily basis by the middle eastern religious zealouts "out shines" by far anything that the KKK or the Timothy McVey's of the world could accomplish in one year of persistent attacks. It's an entire mindset and anti west way of thinking. The McVey's and KKK wanna be's are few and far between in the civilized world. "Death to infidels"!!! How many ******* to you get for killing infedels again??? Is it 19?? I can never remember the exact number but I know they are gonna get alot of quality pootie tang when they die for Allah. They certainly won't just become badly charred worm food for 20 years.

I understand where one could recieve that impression based on the perceptions which are readily spread, but alot of it is exaggerated by the people who I would describe as being fundamentalists. Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it say that you will be rewarded with paradise for these suicide bombings, and the fundamentalist ******s that claim otherwise simply do not posses the facts to back up their claims. The fact is that the perception of a ****** equalling a *********s is simply fallacious. Most ****** men and women are no more likely to commit an act of terror then any Christian or westerner. I suppose what you and I are talking about it two different definitions of terrorism. I am pointing to the fact that most of the ********* incidents in the United States have been comitted by non-arabic and non ****** people. The Oklahoma City bombing was a westerner, the ******** clinic bombings were westerners, all of the assassinations of major American politicians have been carried out by westerners. School shootings were not carried out by people from the Middle East or ******s. I would define all of these things as being acts of terror. As for the occurance of these acts in our more 'civilized' country, this is largely due to the fact that in the Middle East there are a couple of high profile states of conflict that really bring these ideas to the fore-front. Israel-********* and Iraq are always on peoples minds, but those are situations where the people of those countries, who just so happen to be ******, are in situations of very extreme circumstance, be it the presence of a foreign force or an age old dispute over the control of lands. In the United States there is no such crisis, and a result of this there are fewer occurances of civil unrest, yes this is true. But most of the acts of what I would call terror that are commited on American soil a perpatrated by Westerners and are no more often perpatrated by ******s then any other religion.

[Wizard]

I understand where one could recieve that impression based on the perceptions which are readily spread, but alot of it is exaggerated by the people who I would describe as being fundamentalists. Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it say that you will be rewarded with paradise for these suicide bombings, and the fundamentalist ******s that claim otherwise simply do not posses the facts to back up their claims. The fact is that the perception of a ****** equalling a *********s is simply fallacious. Most ****** men and women are no more likely to commit an act of terror then any Christian or westerner. I suppose what you and I are talking about it two different definitions of terrorism. I am pointing to the fact that most of the ********* incidents in the United States have been comitted by non-arabic and non ****** people. The Oklahoma City bombing was a westerner, the ******** clinic bombings were westerners, all of the assassinations of major American politicians have been carried out by westerners. School shootings were not carried out by people from the Middle East or ******s. I would define all of these things as being acts of terror. As for the occurance of these acts in our more 'civilized' country, this is largely due to the fact that in the Middle East there are a couple of high profile states of conflict that really bring these ideas to the fore-front. Israel-********* and Iraq are always on peoples minds, but those are situations where the people of those countries, who just so happen to be ******, are in situations of very extreme circumstance, be it the presence of a foreign force or an age old dispute over the control of lands. In the United States there is no such crisis, and a result of this there are fewer occurances of civil unrest, yes this is true. But most of the acts of what I would call terror that are commited on American soil a perpatrated by Westerners and are no more often perpatrated by ******s then any other religion.

So true, it's sad that the current administration has twisted this truth.

I seriously consider George Bush a fundamentalist.

[legend]

I really don't think anti-western values are the root of the problem. Give an example of an anti-western value that is related to terrorism.

It's not just schools, but it's also the media. Al-Jazeer television and radio or whatever is basically just an anti-western propaganda machine. If you haven't noticed, there are not many media outlets over there and what they hear is what they believe. They don't have a sense of reality like most of us do and cannot distinguish right from wrong. These suicide-bombers really do believe that they are doing a good deed by blowing up innocent civilians. Why don't you give me an example of how they aren't anti-western, that's a much harder question to answer IMO.

[PBDS]

It's not just schools, but it's also the media. Al-Jazeer television and radio or whatever is basically just an anti-western propaganda machine. If you haven't noticed, there are not many media outlets over there and what they hear is what they believe. They don't have a sense of reality like most of us do and cannot distinguish right from wrong. These suicide-bombers really do believe that they are doing a good deed by blowing up innocent civilians. Why don't you give me an example of how they aren't anti-western, that's a much harder question to answer IMO.

...Exactly, and this idea that they are basically just acting this way because it's "all our fault" is a frickin crock. There is no excuse for the sub human acts of terror that the middle eastern scum perpetrate on a daily basis. They take out their own people just to make a point. Yeah, I got your point alright. "yur a nutjob". Case closed. Those people were way ****ed up before we ever entered the scene and will still be ****ed up after we are done punishing them. The funny part is that if they were such loving and caring people then they wouldn't espouse such hatred and put up with such bull**** values and the presence of brutal dictators that murder their own people. If it wasn't for them luckily discovering oil we wouldn't have the problems we have today. Their having the good fortune of finding oil under their land is just like the frickin clampetts from the beverly hillbillies. Backwards ass religious nut jobs suddenly Nuevo Rich. Watcha reckon we outa spend this here money on paw er um Ahkmed???

[Bombardier]

...Exactly, and this idea that they are basically just acting this way because it's "all our fault" is a frickin crock. There is no excuse for the sub human acts of terror that the middle eastern scum perpetrate on a daily basis. They take out their own people just to make a point. Yeah, I got your point alright. "yur a nutjob". Case closed. Those people were way ****ed up before we ever entered the scene and will still be ****ed up after we are done punishing them. The funny part is that if they were such loving and caring people then they wouldn't espouse such hatred and put up with such bull**** values and the presence of brutal dictators that murder their own people. If it wasn't for them luckily discovering oil we wouldn't have the problems we have today. Their having the good fortune of finding oil under their land is just like the frickin clampetts from the beverly hillbillies. Backwards ass religious nut jobs suddenly Nuevo Rich. Watcha reckon we outa spend this here money on paw er um Ahkmed???

****, you know what pdbs? If you had been born there instead of the States you would have been just as much of a "nutjob". All you people think that you're so much better than everyone else and soo informed but you're just a bunch of sheep that listen to your political leaders and your news pundits...just like the people over there do. What makes you so better? If you had been born in Damascus you would be on some message board praising Allah and talking about blowing up Americans. ****, man.

[PBDS]

****, you know what pdbs? If you had been born there instead of the States you would have been just as much of a "nutjob". All you people think that you're so much better than everyone else and soo informed but you're just a bunch of sheep that listen to your political leaders and your news pundits...just like the people over there do. What makes you so better? If you had been born in Damascus you would be on some message board praising Allah and talking about blowing up Americans. ****, man.

....Yeah, that absolutely would not be the case!!! Even if it was, I would at least wash my ass more than twice a month.

[Dude]

It's not just schools, but it's also the media. Al-Jazeer television and radio or whatever is basically just an anti-western propaganda machine. If you haven't noticed, there are not many media outlets over there and what they hear is what they believe. They don't have a sense of reality like most of us do and cannot distinguish right from wrong. These suicide-bombers really do believe that they are doing a good deed by blowing up innocent civilians. Why don't you give me an example of how they aren't anti-western, that's a much harder question to answer IMO.

Change "Al-Jazeer" (sp) into "CNN" and "anti-western" into "anti-eastern" and recognize the other half of the truth.

I really dislike how arrogant and ****y some people talk about the eastern world and africa. Like people over there would be some kind of 2nd class humans, half monkeys, half *********s.

As Bombardier already pointed out the Middle East Middle East has a history of human civilisation extending back 5,000 years.

Arab world, under the Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid caliphates, was the centre of cultural and economic activity in the western half of Eurasia. While Europe endured repeated invasions and saw its population and economic life fall back sharply from the days of the Roman Empire, the great Arab cities such as Cairo, Alexandria, Basra, Damascus and, above all Baghdad supported a large population, a prosperous trading economy and a rich cultural life. Arab literature, architecture, medicine and science were far in advance of anything surviving in western Europe. In all of Christendom, only the fading power of Constantinople was able to compete with the Arab world.

The Middle East was the birthplace and spiritual centre of *******, Christianity and Islam long before anyone even knew or cared about the USA.

America might be the worlds most powerful nation right now but were was it 300 years ago and were will it be in 300 years from now?

[PBDS]

Change "Al-Jazeer" (sp) into "CNN" and "anti-western" into "anti-eastern" and recognize the other half of the truth.

I really dislike how arrogant and ****y some people talk about the eastern world and africa. Like people over there would be some kind of 2nd class humans, half monkeys, half *********s.

As Bombardier already pointed out the Middle East Middle East has a history of human civilisation extending back 5,000 years.

Arab world, under the Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid caliphates, was the centre of cultural and economic activity in the western half of Eurasia. While Europe endured repeated invasions and saw its population and economic life fall back sharply from the days of the Roman Empire, the great Arab cities such as Cairo, Alexandria, Basra, Damascus and, above all Baghdad supported a large population, a prosperous trading economy and a rich cultural life. Arab literature, architecture, medicine and science were far in advance of anything surviving in western Europe. In all of Christendom, only the fading power of Constantinople was able to compete with the Arab world.

The Middle East was the birthplace and spiritual centre of *******, Christianity and Islam long before anyone even knew or cared about the USA.

America might be the worlds most powerful nation right now but were was it 300 years ago and were will it be in 300 years from now?

....Just comparing CNN to Al Jezeera shows just how ****ed up your views are. That is the most rediculous thing I have ever seen. That dark, warm, ****ty beer your drinking may be killing more braincells than you can reproduce my man.

[Dude]

....Just comparing CNN to Al Jezeera shows just how ****ed up your views are. That is the most rediculous thing I have ever seen. That dark, warm, ****ty beer your drinking may be killing more braincells than you can reproduce my man.

I like you pbds and you know it, it's just that you have to stop to think that the world is either black or white. Most of it is grey. And while Al Jezeera reports news that favour their point of view CNN does exactly the same. The problem is that most of the news you get these days always come with a personal opinion. It's a big diference between "10 people hurt in *********ic act" and "religious fanatics keep on terrorizing -10 people hurt". Would have loved to give you a better example but I think you understand my point.

And the dark, warm, ****ty beer you refer to is more like an english speciality. I don't like Guiness either. But I have to admit that I drink a lot of other **** that might affect the quality of my posts.