Do you have sympathy for people who commit suicide or is it a selfish act?

[Anthony342]

Thats the thing.

my mom is the one who found him. She started a maid business after she retired and my cousin was one of the clients she cleaned for. She did sundays at his house at around 11am.

she said she went, the door was unlocked which is strange .

Could this mean the girl went in alone and then unlocked the door or it was left unlocked for someone , or could it mean she knocked and the shooter was there at the entrance as well. We dont know .

he was found in the hallway 4 ft from his bedroom door .no defensive wounds and the shot went off ,blood spatter showed he was standing .

its a one story house , with carpet throughout the house except the kitchen, laundry room and bathrooms.

time of death was marked at 11:45pm -12 midnight

nothing was stolen, No finger prints were found beside his .

his wallet and keys were on the kitchen counter
,his ironing board was out with the iron plugged in and his shirt on the ironing board .

my mom said she saw the ironing board and iron on,she called his name and no response. She went toward his room in the hall way ,and saw him on floor and flipped out and She called the cops .

Why would the girl unlock the door? She have a key? And no other DNA found at the scene to determine murder? And if there's no defensive wounds, how does someone just walk up to him and shoot him in the neck? I could see holding someone at gunpoint, but if you get to point blank range, you gotta go for the guy's gun at that point. Should maybe hire someone to investigate if you have your doubts and can afford it.

[b Murphington]

I know three people who have done it.

I feel sympathy. They were good people. Almost too good. The world kind of crushed them because they weren’t hardcore enough.

I also feel a bit of guilt in two of those cases.

One was old friend who reached out to me while he was drunk af during the day just knocking on my door. Had to turn him away and he was dead a week later. Who knows what he would have told me and what I could have stopped.

In the other instance I happened upon a drunk guy passed out in the ditch at a temperature where you’re dead within 3 hours. I picked him up and brought him home to thaw out. What I didn’t know was that this guy was going to harass and taunt and humiliate his gay son until the son hung himself a year later. I saved a horrible person and maybe got a good guy killed because of it.

That’s crazy

[b Murphington]

My thoughts on the subject.

Me personally, I think I’m too much of a pu$$y to take my own life. But idk there’s a lot of sh#t that could go down lol.

The thought and mentality that suicide is a selfish act the wrong way to look at it and here’s why. For one thing, you’re putting a generic blanket statement on everyone who’s ever committed suicide. That’s not fair because you don’t know everyone’s situation and what everyone’s gone through. Another reason, you’re just making a person who is contemplating feel even worse about themselves than they already are with statements like that.

Even people who have resources or seemingly have it all, mental illness doesn’t discriminate. Look at Robin Williams. Was he selfish? You have no idea what was in his head when he did it. No one does. My thoughts on it are that anyone who does it must not be feeling that good.

I think the reasons why are irrelevant when people determine if it was selfish or not, because people have different tolerances and cooping mechanisms for the same stressors. Case in point. You’ll have one guy who gets fired and he jumps off a building. You got another guy who got fired for the same reason, from the same job, and yeah he takes it hard, but he shakes it off, gets back on the grind, and gets another job. The difference, the one guy just didn’t have the tolerance for that kind of stress and it was too much to handle. And that’s not a knock on the guy who jumped. Could also be the straw that broke the camels back too. And the people who do it aren’t thinking about selfishness. All they know is they want that pain to go away. And they’re so messed up, they don’t realize the resources or the people who care.

NOW, let’s take a look at the mass shooter. Typically, those guys either end up being shot and killed by police, or, they end up taking their own lives. Now that’s a case where you can say that person was a coward cuz they knew they’d be facing life in prison. But, also, the self hatred is so great. Anyone who does something like that clearly has serious issues to begin with and probably aren’t thinking straight anyways.

Then the suicides for terminally ill. Nothing wrong with that. Your life is honestly only gonna get worse from that point on. Ho****e is just gonna pump you full of drugs til you can’t feel anything anyways. Why live like that?

And then you got the guys who genuinely have nothing. Homeless and what not. Mental illness. Chronic conditions. No family or friends. Who would want to live like that? It’s selfish to take your own life in that situation? “Oh but there’s so many other homeless that live their lives and they don’t commit suicide.” So what? They can just continue on living in a sh#tty situation. They want to deal with it. This other guy doesn’t. Doesn’t make him selfish. That’s just him not wanting to go through it anymore and that’s fine.

Not advocating suicide. I just put it in perspective to understand where the people committing suicide come from and showing that it isn’t a selfish act.

[b Murphington]

Speaking as someone who tried it once, I can say that it’s only my mom who I felt bad for. Every death hits her hard and I knew mine would hit her especially hard but I was tapped out. Nothing mattered anymore. I figured she would eventually get over it by talking to her huge family.

When you’re mentally ill, you can talk yourself into bad decisions.

Spent a few months in the hospital and I’m still here. Glad I wasn’t successful. Talk to all of my family regularly now.

Thank you for sharing this.

[b Murphington]

Still could've used his left hand.

No. Statistically speaking, the odds of someone not using their dominant hand to pull the trigger are highly highly highly highly unlikely. The reason? You’re about to commit a major act. Suicide. You’re gonna make sure you do it right. You use the hand you feel most comfortable with. The dominant hand. My source? I watch a lot of Dateline, Forensic Files, true crime stories on TV.

[b Murphington]

It's their live to either live or piss away. So far, no one in my family has gone that route.
If a person is medically doomed or at a point where they cannot take care off themselves, calling Kovorkian would be an understandable move.

This is a great point. Who are we to tell someone to continue on living when someone genuinely wants to end theirs. It’s your life. You should honestly be able to call it quits whenever you want. That’s the ultimate freedom I think. To have the option to do it if you wanted to.

[Anthony342]

No. Statistically speaking, the odds of someone not using their dominant hand to pull the trigger are highly highly highly highly unlikely. The reason? You’re about to commit a major act. Suicide. You’re gonna make sure you do it right. You use the hand you feel most comfortable with. The dominant hand. My source? I watch a lot of Dateline, Forensic Files, true crime stories on TV.

Why not use both hands then, since that makes your shot more stable? All that two guns, one for each hand stuff is all Hollywood bullcrap anyway.

[Zaroku]

It's their live to either live or piss away. So far, no one in my family has gone that route.
If a person is medically doomed or at a point where they cannot take care off themselves, calling Kovorkian would be an understandable move.

A tech writer I wanted sexually many years ago told me to F off, no married dudes !

She was an avid runner and sexy. She suffered chronic pain from running the hills of SF.

She was in her garage, started car, and died.

No note, no nothing.

[Zaroku]

No. Statistically speaking, the odds of someone not using their dominant hand to pull the trigger are highly highly highly highly unlikely. The reason? You’re about to commit a major act. Suicide. You’re gonna make sure you do it right. You use the hand you feel most comfortable with. The dominant hand. My source? I watch a lot of Dateline, Forensic Files, true crime stories on TV.

I’m right handed but I Jack lefty. I write better(script left handed)

[BodyBagz]

A tech writer I wanted sexually many years ago told me to F off, no married dudes !

She was an avid runner and sexy. She suffered chronic pain from running the hills of SF.

She was in her garage, started car, and died.

No note, no nothing.

Dang
Maybe it wasn't that you were married. She just knew there was no future i it....

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