Omicron now

[Madison Boxing]

so let me guess this straight, they have been scaremongering saying vaccines wont work against omnicron but know you are locked down in italy if you dont receive the vaccine that they were saying wont work?

[Madison Boxing]

Nebraska health officials say the vast majority of the COVID-19 patients who are filling up the state’s hospitals are unvaccinated and many of them are younger adults.



Doctors and nurses vent anger as unvaccinated Covid cases delay vital operations

The NHS has a backlog of 5.8 million waiting for surgery and specialists are increasingly frustrated at how the unvaccinated have left them unable to tackle it


As Michigan continues to record high numbers of COVID-19 cases, new data from the Michigan Health & Hospital Association (MHA) proves that the majority of Michigan residents severely sick with COVID-19 are unvaccinated. The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) and MHA are pleading with residents to get vaccinated for their own health, the safety of Michigan’s health care personnel, and to avoid additional strain on health care systems that are already stretched and struggling to respond.


Medics unite to urge unvaccinated to act now as ITU beds fill up, forcing 'distressing' choices

Cancer and elective ops cancelled as unvaccinated Covid patients fill ITU beds - 'please get your jabs' plea



But no, listen to anti vaxers like Mandown, he knows better then all of them. These people are making it up, they aren't experiencing most people over loading their hospitals are non vaxed, all of them are lying.

so the unvaccinated are to blame for the 5.8 million surgeries and the NHS failures what bull****. not the 37 billion they spent on track and trace, half a billion on nightingale hospital which was never used that could have been put straight into NHS. its much easier just to blame unvaccinated than poor management, also lets not forget alot of the GPs have dragged their heels (almost striking!) not wanting to go back to having face to face appointments too, they have hardly helped the backlog. The times is basically the mouthpiece of the ************* too, not a good source of news at all.

[Kris Silver]

so the unvaccinated are to blame for the 5.8 million surgeries and the NHS failures what bull****. not the 37 billion they spent on track and trace, half a billion on nightingale hospital which was never used that could have been put straight into NHS. its much easier just to blame unvaccinated than poor management, also lets not forget alot of the GPs have dragged their heels (almost striking!) not wanting to go back to having face to face appointments too, they have hardly helped the backlog.

Millions of surgeries cancelled, and of people putting strain on a healthcare system, is not akin to billions of...money. People, surgeries, and money, are different things you see. Ever heard of comparing apples and pears? You might suggest you weren't comparing there but I think you were really.

Secondly, yes actually in fairness, as an aside, the billions the government has wasted on track and trace is a disgrace and contributing factor as-well, you are quite right.

But it doesn't undermine 5 articles across the world shared there, of health professionals simply stating that health care systems are being overwhelmed, particularly with non vaxed, and it has wider ramifications on our health care systems to and for the public.

[Madison Boxing]

Millions of surgeries cancelled, and of people putting strain on a healthcare system, is not akin to billions of...money. People, surgeries, and money, are different things you see. Ever heard of comparing apples and pears? You might suggest you weren't comparing there but I think you were really.

Secondly, yes actually in fairness, as an aside, the billions the government has wasted on track and trace is a disgrace and contributing factor as-well, you are quite right.

But it doesn't undermine 5 articles across the world shared there, of health professionals simply stating that health care systems are being overwhelmed, particularly with non vaxed, and it has wider ramifications on our health care systems to and for the public.

just saying that money could have been put into beds, ventilators, getting doctors in from overseas etc. not having it that health care is buckling because of the unvaccinated. i think every damn winter for last 20 years theyve said NHS is being overwhelmed. many doctors need to look at themselves, as i said many GPs are dragging their heels not wanting to do face to face appointments which slows whole system down.

[Kris Silver]

just saying that money could have been put into beds, ventilators, getting doctors in from overseas etc. not having it that health care is buckling because of the unvaccinated. i think every damn winter for last 20 years theyve said NHS is being overwhelmed. many doctors need to look at themselves, as i said many GPs are dragging their heels not wanting to do face to face appointments which slows whole system down.

Yes the Government has squandered lots of money, blame them for that, that's less money in the Health Services budgets (I notice you don't give the health service or workers a break for the impediment of less funds, and just still criticise them as if you can do better). But it's not solely money, the NHS is Europes biggest employer, and they are hindered by lack of resource, growing demand, rules, targets and more costly private intervention, not to mention having a global pandemic chucked in.

And you just criticise the health service as-well as, well they should just be able to do better shouldn't they. What an insight you have.

Numerous seniors in the NHS, health organisations, scientists, doctors, nurses, all of them stating with actual data and evidence, that the NHS has come closer than ever to collapsing. External auditors finding emergency treatments delayed significantly due to the demand put on top with a pandemic. People experiencing bigger than ever delays to significant operations and health services they need, due to demand from Covid. Evidence that most numbers now in hospitals putting the strain on services and access to health care, is from non vaxxed.

And Madison boxing on Boxinscene, knows better. They are all wrong.

[Dakuwaqa]

Just had my Pfizer booster. Grateful for staff and volunteers making it such a smooth operation.

[Madison Boxing]

Yes the Government has squandered lots of money, blame them for that, that's less money in the Health Services budgets (I notice you don't give the health service or workers a break for the impediment of less funds, and just still criticise them as if you can do better). But it's not solely money, the NHS is Europes biggest employer, and they are hindered by lack of resource, growing demand, rules, targets and more costly private intervention, not to mention having a global pandemic chucked in.

And you just criticise the health service as-well as, well they should just be able to do better shouldn't they. What an insight you have.

Numerous seniors in the NHS, health organisations, scientists, doctors, nurses, all of them stating with actual data and evidence, that the NHS has come closer than ever to collapsing. External auditors finding emergency treatments delayed significantly due to the demand put on top with a pandemic. People experiencing bigger than ever delays to significant operations and health services they need, due to demand from Covid. Evidence that most numbers now in hospitals putting the strain on services and access to health care, is from non vaxxed.

And Madison boxing on Boxinscene, knows better. They are all wrong.

the nhs should be able to cope, especially now apparently winter flu season doesnt exist. people have had to wait for years for surgeries before covid too, a lot of them delayed surgeries will be non essential orthopaedic surgeries. family member had something urgent the other day and he was operated within 2 days. all im saying is you, koba, the guy with the flame photo should be a bit more critical about the stuff you read in the news, the messages that are being sent out. its in governments and NHS interest for blame to go on the unvaccinated rather than people pointing the finger at deeper causes. and as i said before which u keep ignoring, maybe the GPs should get back to work properly and help out their colleagues in the acute trusts with prompt diagnosis and early intervention before these surgeries are needed in the first place. been many cases of missed cancer diagnoses because people cant get an appointment. if the nhs is 'overwhelmed and on its knees' with the state of affairs as they are than its not fit for purpose and is mismanaged. theres a lot of middle managers with their hands in the pot who do nothing. as i said before for the last 20 years it seems to be in permanent crisis, its nothing new. quit blaming people who simply dont want a vaccine, they arent criminals.

[Robbie Barrett]

the nhs should be able to cope, especially now apparently winter flu season doesnt exist. people have had to wait for years for surgeries before covid too, a lot of them delayed surgeries will be non essential orthopaedic surgeries. family member had something urgent the other day and he was operated within 2 days. all im saying is you, koba, the guy with the flame photo should be a bit more critical about the stuff you read in the news, the messages that are being sent out. its in governments and NHS interest for blame to go on the unvaccinated rather than people pointing the finger at deeper causes. and as i said before which u keep ignoring, maybe the GPs should get back to work properly and help out their colleagues in the acute trusts with prompt diagnosis and early intervention before these surgeries are needed in the first place. been many cases of missed cancer diagnoses because people cant get an appointment. if the nhs is 'overwhelmed and on its knees' with the state of affairs as they are than its not fit for purpose and is mismanaged. theres a lot of middle managers with their hands in the pot who do nothing. as i said before for the last 20 years it seems to be in permanent crisis, its nothing new. quit blaming people who simply dont want a vaccine, they arent criminals.

People that don't get the vaccine shouldn't get treatment if ill from covid. Problem solved.

[Kris Silver]

the nhs should be able to cope, especially now apparently winter flu season doesnt exist. people have had to wait for years for surgeries before covid too, a lot of them delayed surgeries will be non essential orthopaedic surgeries. family member had something urgent the other day and he was operated within 2 days. all im saying is you, koba, the guy with the flame photo should be a bit more critical about the stuff you read in the news, the messages that are being sent out. its in governments and NHS interest for blame to go on the unvaccinated rather than people pointing the finger at deeper causes. and as i said before which u keep ignoring, maybe the GPs should get back to work properly and help out their colleagues in the acute trusts with prompt diagnosis and early intervention before these surgeries are needed in the first place. been many cases of missed cancer diagnoses because people cant get an appointment. if the nhs is 'overwhelmed and on its knees' with the state of affairs as they are than its not fit for purpose and is mismanaged. theres a lot of middle managers with their hands in the pot who do nothing. as i said before for the last 20 years it seems to be in permanent crisis, its nothing new. quit blaming people who simply dont want a vaccine, they arent criminals.

1.3 million people work for an organisation covering the entirety of a countries public. According to almost all internal and external findings with evidence and data state all waiting lists up, staff shortages up, investment down pro rata and not keeping up with demand from the countries population placed on it. All these experts in nursing, health practices, resourcing (I have family and friends that have and do work in the NHS and resourcing it). There's evidence regularly from audits that find month on month, year on year for a good few years now, this is all worsening and investment and resource is not where it needs to be. With all kinds of huge numbers of people involved in efforts to do the best possible. Stick a pandemic on top of it as-well.

And Madison boxing says "It should be able to cope".

Wow. 1.3 million people working in the NHS, and thousands of vastly more informed persons external of it such as auditors and specialists, are dying to hear from you as to why, and more importantly, HOW? You've got some marvellous insight here, share it, it would be worth a lot of money to you. You'd be a hero. Share what you know so much better than all of them.

How about, quit sticking your fingers in your ears when faced with vastly more better informed evidence to the contrary of what you say, still insisting you are right. It's moronic and embarrassing.

Countless of NHS staff some I know, there's countless reports of people in and out the health sector, stating with evidence, YOU ARE TALKING SH!7. And you've repeatedly put together nothing to support otherwise or support your ignorant know it all broad statements.

[Citizen Koba]

the nhs should be able to cope, especially now apparently winter flu season doesnt exist. people have had to wait for years for surgeries before covid too, a lot of them delayed surgeries will be non essential orthopaedic surgeries. family member had something urgent the other day and he was operated within 2 days. all im saying is you, koba, the guy with the flame photo should be a bit more critical about the stuff you read in the news, the messages that are being sent out. its in governments and NHS interest for blame to go on the unvaccinated rather than people pointing the finger at deeper causes. and as i said before which u keep ignoring, maybe the GPs should get back to work properly and help out their colleagues in the acute trusts with prompt diagnosis and early intervention before these surgeries are needed in the first place. been many cases of missed cancer diagnoses because people cant get an appointment. if the nhs is 'overwhelmed and on its knees' with the state of affairs as they are than its not fit for purpose and is mismanaged. theres a lot of middle managers with their hands in the pot who do nothing. as i said before for the last 20 years it seems to be in permanent crisis, its nothing new. quit blaming people who simply dont want a vaccine, they arent criminals.

FOH man. You ain't even close to understanding my postion or beliefs about the world. I don't even watch TV or read the Newspapers and was brought up literally being taught that all media is the reflection of political or financial interests and all mass media is de facto propaganda. What you now call the 'MSM' I was calling out from when you were probably still in shortpants.

Most of us here are rightly cynical of what you call the MSM but most of us can also recognise the daft, inaccurate and harmful bullchit you've fallen for hook line and sinker as the blatant propagandised crap it actually is. What is it makes you think you are somehow less subject to propagandisation and manipulation that anyone else, man? Apart from your own obviously infalliable and completely objective judgement that is?