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"Leading Western experts believed a lab leak was the 'likely' origin of Covid but were silenced because it could cause harm to Chinese scientists, bombshell emails show.
Sir Jeremy Farrar, who publicly denounced the theory as a 'conspiracy', admitted in a private email in February 2020 that a 'likely explanation' was that the virus was man-made.
The then-UK Government adviser said at the time he was '70:30 or 60:40' in favour of an accidental release versus natural origin.
In the email, sent to American health chiefs Dr and Dr Francis Collins, Sir Jeremy said it was possible Covid had been evolved from a Sars-like virus in the lab. He went on that this seemingly benign process may have 'accidentally created a virus primed for rapid transmission between humans'.
But the British scientist was shut down by his counterparts in the US who warned further debate about the origins of the virus could damage 'international harmony."
and people wonder why me and others dont trust a damn thing these people say in publicLast edited by Madison Boxing; 01-12-2022, 07:10 PM.
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Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post
and youve got posters on here trying to bully and make people bad for not wanting that **** in their body. my worst case scenario if i stay unvaccinated is that i get some cold like symptoms and a couple days of work. my worst case scenario if i get the jab is that i drop down dead. that 17 year old had her whole life ahead of her, she walked into that vaccine clinic thinking she was doing the right thing, unfortunately when she signed that permission slip she literally signed away her life. awful
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Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post"Leading Western experts believed a lab leak was the 'likely' origin of Covid but were silenced because it could cause harm to Chinese scientists, bombshell emails show.
Sir Jeremy Farrar, who publicly denounced the theory as a 'conspiracy', admitted in a private email in February 2020 that a 'likely explanation' was that the virus was man-made.
The then-UK Government adviser said at the time he was '70:30 or 60:40' in favour of an accidental release versus natural origin.
In the email, sent to American health chiefs Dr and Dr Francis Collins, Sir Jeremy said it was possible Covid had been evolved from a Sars-like virus in the lab. He went on that this seemingly benign process may have 'accidentally created a virus primed for rapid transmission between humans'.
But the British scientist was shut down by his counterparts in the US who warned further debate about the origins of the virus could damage 'international harmony."
and people wonder why me and others dont trust a damn thing these people say in publicLast edited by TonyGe; 01-12-2022, 11:28 PM.
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Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
It's exactly the opposite. The vaccinated people have been remarkably tolerant of the unvaccinated but they aren't going to sit around any longer and listen to an endless stream of BS from them.
Yeah what they going to do? Let's kick this off then. I'm sick of you vaxxed and your BS. I'm just waiting to be pushed.
You vaxxed are a spreading this even more than the unvaxxed. Your "vaccine" allows you to think you don't have it then you're spreading it. Thats just the facts and the proof is in the numbers. No way only 30 million Americans are responsible for the cases we're seeing now. That's why they want the control group to take it. They made some BS "vaccine" that ended up doing the opposite of what they said it would and yeah we have videos of them saying it. So now "you don't get as sick" so let's give it to everyone and pretend it works.
We're sick of your ****. Do something. We're waiting for all of you.Last edited by man down; 01-12-2022, 11:51 PM.
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Originally posted by man down View Post
You know I gave up on this topic today because this chit will be over soon. Then I see this.
Yeah what they going to do? Let's kick this off then. I'm sick of you vaxxed and your BS. I'm just waiting to be pushed.
You vaxxed are a spreading this even more than the unvaxxed. Your "vaccine" allows you to think you don't have it then you're spreading it. Thats just the facts and the proof is in the numbers. No way only 30 million Americans are responsible for the cases we're seeing now. That's why they want the control group to take it. They made some BS "vaccine" that ended up doing the opposite of what they said it would and yeah we have videos of them saying it. So now "you don't get as sick" so let's give it to everyone and pretend it works.
We're sick of your ****. Do something. We're waiting for all of you.
The present vacvines worked on the strains that they were developed to fight. This new variant is almost like a completely new virus. Vaccines still provides protection from severe illness. That's a fact. You can't accept that for some bizarre reason. You can end up in the ICU and unvaccinated people make up the greater percentage per 100k of the population. . The death rate per day is back up to 2000 when I checked yesterday. The cost of hospitalizations is staggering. There are going to be new vaccines just like there are for the seasonal flu which 30 million Americans and quite a few people in their countries won't take. This isn't over as you are claiming. Delta is still present and it may resurge if Omicron fades away. If you want this thing to end then the most effective way to is to go get vaccinated to protect from a Delta resurgence and any future mutation like it. Then take the new vaccines that are sure to be coming next year.Last edited by TonyGe; 01-13-2022, 06:45 AM.
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Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
That's ridiculous. You are saying 30 million can't spread look it but you claim a single lab leak did. This new virus is more contageous than measels.
The present vacvines worked on the strains that they were developed to fight. This new variant is almost like a completely new virus. Vaccines still provides protection from severe illness. That's a fact. You can't accept that for some bizarre reason. You can end up in the ICU and unvaccinated people make up the greater percentage per 100k of the population. . The death rate per day is back up to 2000 when I checked yesterday. The cost of hospitalizations is staggering. There are going to be new vaccines just like there are for the seasonal flu which 30 million Americans and quite a few people in their countries won't take. This isn't over as you are claiming. Delta is still present and it may resurge if Omicron fades away. If you want this thing to end then the most effective way to is to go get vaccinated to protect from a Delta resurgence and any future mutation like it. Then take the new vaccines that are sure to be coming next year.man down likes this.
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Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
Swiss cheese has less holes than the contents of these arguements. Yes it's possible it came out if a lab but it's more likely it was created naturally. This virus has infected humans, bats, mink, felines and God knows how many other animals. It mutated multiple times. The corona viruses have infected humans for thousands of years that we know of and spontainously mutated for thousands of years. Corona viruses likely have been around for millions of years. As far as this particular virus goes despite its origins we have to deal with it. The best way is through vaccinations.
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its funny how anti vaxxers are so evil, so irresponsible, yet give me a link and i will pay for package and postage for my jabs to go to someone at risk in africa, 3 shots so 3 people get some sort of protection. they can have my allocation of the miracle pill too. some of you ought to be ashamed of yourselves, queuing up for your 3rd outside the jab office like oliver twist 'please sir can i have one jab more sir' whilst many people havent even got one dose, and you guys are considered some sort of heroes for getting it, god if you were on the titanic youd probs have pushed the women and children out of the way to save your own skin and get on the lifeboat. you say how great the jab is but you want them all for yourselves, grown men in 20s and 30s having 3 shots whilst some vulnerable person with malnutrition in some 3rd world country doesnt have any, well done guys great job!!!!!
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