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    Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
    yeah, because cristiano controls who takes the penalties.

    simple thing is, i hold no double standards. messi is the best right now. he hasn't done shyt country-side when he has a stacked team to play with.

    he wins internationally, he can be up there. until then, he is not up there imo. can't even win a tournament with teams like ****in peru.

    you and dirk can hate cristiano all you want. i don't mind where he is placed. so this isn't a messi ronaldo thing from my pov. it's a double standard, which i do not hold.
    It's Cristiano ****ing Ronaldo....he definitely gets a say in how things are done from the manager. He's' too important and good to not have any input. Then again, his **** is so far down your throat that you'll defend him no matter what.

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      Originally posted by JoeKickAss View Post
      It's Cristiano ****ing Ronaldo....he definitely gets a say in how things are done from the manager. He's' too important and good to not have any input. Then again, his **** is so far down your throat that you'll defend him no matter what.
      i didn't really defend him. the manager makes the decision. ref torres wanting to take a penalty and rdm saying no. maybe they thought it best for him to go last? idk. i expected him to go first.

      lower your tone boy.

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        Originally posted by Pirao View Post
        You gave the cover of a book, that's it. How about showing the relevant pages, for starters?



        ¿O de lo contrario, qué?

        'Alavy notes Spanish audiences for international sport tends to be relatively low, perhaps because of the regional divides. Basques, say might not want to follow a Spanish 'national team'. That may be changing: Spanish viewing figures shot up during Euro 2008 even before they reached the final.'



        Dunno if that works, don't really give a f.uck. I just remember reading that Spain scored lowly when it came to core tv viewing for football with houses with TV sets BEFORE they got good.

        So it seems, at least according the evidence in this chapter read from 215 onwards (there's tables and all sorts!), that Spanish supporters are bandwagoners.

        Anyway you're irritating. I actually spent time googling that page.
        Last edited by Sparked_26; 09-14-2012, 05:18 PM.

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          hey sparked. do you think moses will get a start at left wing against qpr?

          with bosingwa on right back. moses could probably exploit his lack of defending.

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            Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
            hey sparked. do you think moses will get a start at left wing against qpr?

            with bosingwa on right back. moses could probably exploit his lack of defending.
            I think any of the wide players will exploit Bosingwa.

            He's shit. Still can't get over his awesome display as a centre-half against Barca, lol.

            I think Mata might be left out today as he was given a rest and only trained yesterday.

            I just hope RDM doesn't play Ramires on the right. He is terrible there, really terrible. I think Di Matteo likes to shutdown one side of the pitch so it might be Bertrand and Cole again on the left and maybe Oscar or Ramires on the right.

            I'd like to see us just go with Oscar-------Hazard---------Moses though. But we got smashed in our last game so RDM will revert to type and pick a solid team I'm betting - hopefully Cahill instead of Luiz, too.


            -----------------------------Cech---------------------------

            Ivan-------------Terry-----------Cahill----------------Cole

            ------------------Mikel-----------Lampard------------------

            Oscar------------------Hazard-------------------Bertrand


            -------------------------Torres-------------------------------

            Look at our subs!

            Moses
            Strurridge
            Mata
            Ramires
            Azpilicueta

            If we lose today I'll be really surprised and will get tons of abuse from QPR mates. I'm expecting a big win though. 4-1 or something like that. QPR are an entire team of strangers.

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              Originally posted by Pirao View Post
              Now the number of fans in attendance is the only indicator of support? Got it
              It's definitely the biggest indicator, put it that way

              Spain bring no following to tournaments, even the world cup in Germany Spain brought no-one

              Not that I care, that guy said the english don't care about the national team, being english (I assume), he would know better than me. But hey, if you disagree, you can discuse it with him, can back when you guys agree on whether you care for your national team or not.
              The point being made by the English people in here is that no-one cares about qualifying games or friendlies. I pretty much guarantee that everyone in here will still watch the games though. What you and that other guy don't seem to realize is that it's possible to support club over country, but still support your country.

              Have you always been a fan of Manchester City or only after the sheikh started bringing in his oil money, BTW?
              Have you always been a predictable ****, or only after you signed up to boxingscene BTW?

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                Originally posted by Sparked_26 View Post


                Dunno if that works, don't really give a f.uck. I just remember reading that Spain scored lowly when it came to core tv viewing for football with houses with TV sets BEFORE they got good.

                So it seems, at least according the evidence in this chapter read from 215 onwards (there's tables and all sorts!), that Spanish supporters are bandwagoners.

                Anyway you're irritating. I actually spent time googling that page.
                Can't see **** there.

                Originally posted by El Fenomeno View Post
                It's definitely the biggest indicator, put it that way

                Spain bring no following to tournaments, even the world cup in Germany Spain brought no-one
                Right. So if a small country, like say, Netherlands, brings less people than England it means they support their team less, even though their population is obviously much smaller, ok.

                The point being made by the English people in here is that no-one cares about qualifying games or friendlies. I pretty much guarantee that everyone in here will still watch the games though. What you and that other guy don't seem to realize is that it's possible to support club over country, but still support your country.
                That guy didn't say he supports club over country, he said he doesn't care about the national team, period.

                Originally posted by Sparked_26 View Post
                The day I stopped caring about England's games properly is that 0-0 draw with Algeria 2010.

                Have you always been a predictable ****, or only after you signed up to boxingscene BTW?
                I see I hit a nerve... gloryhunting twat
                Last edited by Pirao; 09-15-2012, 05:06 AM.

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                  So, in closing Spain have traditionally low television share audiences for international events and they don't turn up to the games at major tournaments. Wonderful.

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                    Originally posted by Pirao View Post
                    Can't see **** there.


                    I see I hit a nerve... gloryhunting twat

                    Oh well! I'm hardly going to scan the pages in for you now am I? Read it, or don't read it, or shove it up your arse.

                    Also, I don't think you can call anyone who supports England a glory hunter as anyone with a semblance of football knowledge knows that they most likely will never win anything. But the Algeria 0-0 was a tipping point in the sense it was an anemic, listless, passionless display against a developing nation after the country had built itself into that same frenzy it does every couple of years when a major tournament is on. Bit tiresome. The minimum expected is a bit passion.

                    Spain is obviously on the crest of wave right now regarding the national team and the nature of most football fans when in it comes to the national team is that they are fickle. The facts and figure suggest that largely they weren't as interested as the English in major tournaments before they got good. Now this is obvious glory-hunting. But I'm mature enough to say football fans are fickle especially when it comes to their 'national team', Spain also has those obvious regional divides that exist which England doesn't have. The England team are better supported than the Spanish and always will be even with many supporters holding their club teams closer to their hearts.

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                      Originally posted by Pirao View Post
                      Right. So if a small country, like say, Netherlands, brings less people than England it means they support their team less, even though their population is obviously much smaller, ok.
                      Irrelevant really, considering I never mentioned the Netherlands and the populations of Spain and England are virtually the same. So the point stands, England's support is far better than Spain's, end of.

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