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    Originally posted by P4P_No1 View Post
    Drogba has impacted bigger games. Have you ever seen Rooney boss a defence like Drogba has?

    And when I mentioned Torres I did say a fit and firing Torres. Yes he hasn't been that guy for a while but if it was a choice between the Liverpool Torres (in his first two season) and Rooney, I'll take Torres.

    And you say Drogba is past his best (probably a fair comment) yet a past it Drogba still dominated against Barca, Spurs (semi-final) and against Bayern when Chelsea needed him. He came up *****s.

    I don't discount what Rooney does for his team but his job isn't to be dropping deep and pinging the ball out wide to the wingers is it?

    It's the midfielders job. Rooney's job is to score goals.

    But IMO I've never seen (or remember) when Rooney has dominated a match against quality opposition like the guys I've mentioned.

    He was fantastic at Euro 2004. He running games but other than that, I don't remember.

    I don't discount Rooney's talent or ability. I don't believe I'm under-rating him or over-rating him.

    I'm just being genuine about his impact and what he's actually done.
    Drogba is probably 1 of the best big game players I have ever seen, Rooney has had his fair share also tho...hes scored in huge derby games, against our biggest rivals...champs league final etc...

    You say drogba bosses defences, in what sense? because he is physically so strong? Rooney been bossing defences for years, drogba is a target man, rooney isnt....your comparing things that are not comparable..its like me asking you how often Drogba pings a ball out to the wingers in free space

    And your the type of person I would assume who thinks Strikers should just score goals...because it seems thats all your really looking at...

    At the end of the day, you have a number 9 and a number 10....one is a more supporting role... no one should have 2 out and out strikers..just doesnt work

    A striker doesnt just need to be someone scoring goals....whether hes getting assists or not dont matter either, its the team chemistry that is the important part...

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      Henderson in for Lampard. I just hope we don't get embarrassed. Again.

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        Originally posted by AssasinKing View Post
        Drogba is probably 1 of the best big game players I have ever seen, Rooney has had his fair share also tho...hes scored in huge derby games, against our biggest rivals...champs league final etc...

        You say drogba bosses defences, in what sense? because he is physically so strong? Rooney been bossing defences for years, drogba is a target man, rooney isnt....your comparing things that are not comparable..its like me asking you how often Drogba pings a ball out to the wingers in free space

        And your the type of person I would assume who thinks Strikers should just score goals...because it seems thats all your really looking at...

        At the end of the day, you have a number 9 and a number 10....one is a more supporting role... no one should have 2 out and out strikers..just doesnt work

        A striker doesnt just need to be someone scoring goals....whether hes getting assists or not dont matter either, its the team chemistry that is the important part...
        Not just physically. I mean really taking it by the scruff of the neck.

        Look at how Rooney was in Euro 2004. Picking the ball up driving at defences & basically scaring the living daylights out of them. How many times has he done that since?

        I'm not saying that they should be judged solely on goals but that's the main point of a striker isn't it?

        But if you want to split hairs and place Rooney solely in that number 10 role...then he isn't comparable to Eto, Augero, Falco, RVP, etc. Because they are out and out strikers (even though they do their part in the build up of moves and attacks).

        So I'm slightly confused as to what your argument for Rooney being better than them is?

        Is it he's a better all round player ? IMO RVP is better and he's proven it this season. First time he's been injury free all season and he's playing in a lesser side some could say.

        Or is he the better striker? Which I don't think he is either.

        I think Rooney is a very, very good player.

        World Class? Yet to be proven IMO. The player that tore up Euro 2004 (until his injury) looked like he would be a world beater but he hasn't replicated that sort of form on a regular enough basis (and against the big sides either).

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            Originally posted by Napalm Death View Post
            Henderson in for Lampard. I just hope we don't get embarrassed. Again.
            Meh, Lampard hasn't done fuck all for England since Euro 2004. Another overrated chump.

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              Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson. WTF??

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                Originally posted by Addition View Post
                Meh, Lampard hasn't done fuck all for England since Euro 2004. Another overrated chump.
                Who's scored 137 goals since 2004 for Chelsea.

                Yeh definitely a "chump" lol.

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                  Lampard is your typical English bum. Good for his club where he has world class players around him to make him look better than he actually is. Useless for his country where they rely on him more.

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                    Originally posted by Stannis View Post
                    Lampard is your typical English bum. Good for his club where he has world class players around him to make him look better than he actually is. Useless for his country where they rely on him more.
                    Such a ridiculous comment to make.

                    Do Messi & Ronaldo play as well for their countries as they do their clubs? No.

                    Does that make them bum's too?

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                      Originally posted by P4P_No1 View Post
                      Who's scored 137 goals since 2004 for Chelsea.

                      Yeh definitely a "chump" lol.
                      And yet has done fuck all for England which was my main point.

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