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[Roy Jones Jnr]

We have Dele Alli now.

The best right back in World football.

Lallana, Sterling, Barkey.

Jack Butland is back.

Stones, Keane, Gibson all terrific young defenders.

We are firmly on the up.

Young Marcus Rashford looks like the real deal Holyfield, reminds me of a young fat Ronnie.

Disagree on Clyne being the best right back in world football doe, he's good but he's no Lahm. My boy young Trent Alexander-Arnold will very soon be right up there with the best doe, no doubt.

The future's looking bright, no doubt whatsoever about that. If the young lions continue progressing as expected i reckon we'll be favorites for the 2022 World Cup.

[PrinceNaz88]

I'm not sold on Rashford yet.

His pace is absolutely frightening but his touch isn't great and he gives the ball away a lot.

He has got potential no doubt about it but I was much more excited about Owen and Rooney when they were 18.

[Sparked_26]

I take it back.

We're going to win the world cup.

We will crush the football world under our unforgiving boot.

[The Ox]

Word is Lallana out for a month

Fcuk international football 100% srs

[Sparked_26]

Video ref used in the France/Spain game and it worked.

Who'd have thought?

Oh yeah........absolutely every single person who has ever watched a game of football.

[RetroSpeed05]

I never seen such a atrocious more hyped up team then Argentina. They are gonna miss the WC, but Messi gets blamed for not winning a national trophy with this team. The fact that they only won 1 game without Messi and lost and drew the rest shows all i need to see. Messi is the GOAT for bringing this Argentina to 3 finals.

[JJRod]

I know we usually have an inflated sense of self worth regarding our national team but I think we'd probably win that thing or we definitely should win it. With the infrastructure and football culture over here still being light years ahead of those countries. Soccernomics is a good book to explain why the cultural football hotbeds of Europe and South America leads to a better exchange of ideas and use of resources. The US and Mexico are at both at a geographical ,economic, historical and competitive disadvantage currently to England. England suffered themselves as we view our country as the grand old man of the game and assumed for many decades that our views on the game are the right ones and the success of other nations was more down to luck and the prodigious talent of other nations individuals.

England as a statistical par according to soccernomics should finish every tournament at least in the Quarters.

I don't think England have ever lost to Mexico and have lost maybe once or twice to the US in history.

England's issue is they absolutely cannot beat anyone good. Mexico and the US just aren't good IMO - can't be since Jozy Altidore plays for the US and I'm better than him ffs. That said I do expect the US to become a force in my life time at least. They'll win a World Cup before England anyway if either of them ever wins one. In the end US coaches will all have FIFA coaching badges, the talent pool will massively increase and at that point it's a numbers game because they will be able to pick from a vast pool of talent even if Football increased in popularity about 20% over there. The dominate Women's football purely due to participation in the sport. In real terms I sort of think if one of the big 3 sports over there just point blank didn't exist then the US would have won a few world cups by now. That is just logic but even then their disconnect from the rest of the football world would f.uck them.

The US to really improve would need to qualify the South American section.

One of England's big issues is they coast qualifying playing so so football against teams who park the bus. I am not even sure England have conceded a goal in the last qualification never mind this one. As a result they can't compete adequately when they are the weaker team.

England themselves would improve by joining South American qualifying, lol. Thought we might struggle to qualify altogether then. I'd be in favour.

Imagine having to beat Bolivia away or some sh.it at high altitude to qualify. Our lads would get smashed. But in about a decade I bet we'd be pretty strong. Competition breeds achievement.

The US and Mexico have competed in tournaments against south America and while they haven't won it, they've been pretty competitive.
Last year they had the 100 year anniversary of Copa america and both the US and Mexico finished on top of their group. Both losing to eventual finalist Chile and Argentina respectively.

In 2014 costa rica, and the US both came out of the supposed group of death, and Mexico coming out of their group 2nd only to brasil in gd.

Concacaf is by no means a powerhouse, but I think it's naive to think England could come in here and win it. I could easily see them fall to Honduras in a game in San Pedro Sula with that hostile environment.

[*OG Wenger*]

If the yanks ever take football seriously. Nobody else will stand a chance.

[*OG Wenger*]

I'm not sold on Rashford yet.

His pace is absolutely frightening but his touch isn't great and he gives the ball away a lot.

He has got potential no doubt about it but I was much more excited about Owen and Rooney when they were 18.

Walcott MK II

[Sparked_26]

The US and Mexico have competed in tournaments against south America and while they haven't won it, they've been pretty competitive.
Last year they had the 100 year anniversary of Copa america and both the US and Mexico finished on top of their group. Both losing to eventual finalist Chile and Argentina respectively.

In 2014 costa rica, and the US both came out of the supposed group of death, and Mexico coming out of their group 2nd only to brasil in gd.

Concacaf is by no means a powerhouse, but I think it's naive to think England could come in here and win it. I could easily see them fall to Honduras in a game in San Pedro Sula with that hostile environment.

I can appreciate all that.

But there is an overwhelming, entrenched belief that the US don't care about football and as such losing or even being remotely on par with them is too big of a cross to bare.