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    Originally posted by Big Vern View Post
    Rooney, Defoe, Crouch and Bent. Those are the four front men that should be taken. It would be a bizarre decision to take Heskey IMO. I'd rather take Carlton Cole or Bobby Zamora (lol) if we have to take someone of that mould.

    It's good to see Lennon fit again, and he'll be taken regardless of how he performs in the final 3 games of the season.

    Michael Dawson should go instead of Matthew Upson too.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Adam Johnson on the plane either.
    Good post

    I dont know if Heskey SHOULD go, but i mean he has proved himself in world cups....and still in todays football...last season i would have taken cole, this year he doesnt seem the same to be honest....Crouch is a great sub to bring on, defoe has his games where hes unbelievable or hes completely out of it....Zamora...i just really couldnt imagine, but this year hes been amazing, great target man...

    And i really wouldnt mind seeing Johnson either, his peformances have been amazing.... Lennon, Milner, Johnson, Young, Walcott....

    The pace of the team will be amazing....

    The defense is where im confused about...Ferdinand, i dont have a clue what going on with him atm....but if hes match fit, hes playing 100%..Terry also, even though hes been abit dodgy this year....I personally think Dawson and Jagielka should be on the plane, *** campbell and upson...

    Jagielka has been 1 of the best CB's for the last 3 years....its only because hes just back from injury people arnt really considering him

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        Originally posted by AssasinKing View Post
        Good post

        I dont know if Heskey SHOULD go, but i mean he has proved himself in world cups....and still in todays football...last season i would have taken cole, this year he doesnt seem the same to be honest....Crouch is a great sub to bring on, defoe has his games where hes unbelievable or hes completely out of it....Zamora...i just really couldnt imagine, but this year hes been amazing, great target man...

        And i really wouldnt mind seeing Johnson either, his peformances have been amazing.... Lennon, Milner, Johnson, Young, Walcott....

        The pace of the team will be amazing....

        The defense is where im confused about...Ferdinand, i dont have a clue what going on with him atm....but if hes match fit, hes playing 100%..Terry also, even though hes been abit dodgy this year....I personally think Dawson and Jagielka should be on the plane, *** campbell and upson...

        Jagielka has been 1 of the best CB's for the last 3 years....its only because hes just back from injury people arnt really considering him
        Neither Zamora or Cole will be taken, I'd rather those two over Heskey though.

        As for Johnson, I agree. It's always good to have the option of a naturally left footed winger too. Obviously he won't be a starter, but he's more than capable of coming off the bench and making a difference.

        Ferdinand's chronic back problems are a worry, for sure. Not to mention the other niggling injuries he's been picking up. And, when he has been fit, his performances have been below par. It's like he's lost a yard of pace, which pains me to say seeing as though I'm a United fan.

        As far as Jagielka is concerned, I'm not so sure. He's not played much football this year which would be a concern. I'd like to see Ledley King taken, but he's about as useless as a chocolate tea pot with all his injuries.

        I think taking Campbell would be a risk. His form has been good for Arsenal, but he'd get found out by the worlds best.

        I'd take Gary Neville too. I already think Glen Johnson is our weak link (in a fully fit back four). He's great going forward, but defensively he's pretty vulnerable. Having G. Nev as back up is a nice option to have.

        Out of interest, who would you take as back up for Ashley Cole? Warnock or Baines?

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          What is England's youth looking like?

          Ferdinand, Terry, Lampard, Beckham, Cole, etc are may not be in the next world cup or at least that will be their last.

          Who are good english youths coming up? I know they got embarassed in the two youth world cups that happened.

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            Originally posted by gingeralbino View Post
            not sure if its been posted yet, but heres the PFA team of the year (English Premier League)

            Joe Hart (Man City, Birmingham on loan)
            Branislav Ivanovic (Chelsea)
            Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal)
            Richard Dunne (Aston Villa)
            Patrice Evra (Man Utd)
            Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal)
            James Milner (Aston Villa) PFA YOUNG PLAYER OTY
            Darren Fletcher (Man Utd)
            Antonio Valencia (Man Utd)
            Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) PFA PLAYER OF THE YEAR
            Didier Drogba (Chelsea)

            Good to see Fletcher get some credit, couldnt imagine him in the team of the year a few years ago.
            Where is the Ashley Cole nuthugger?? lol Not even the best left back in his league.
            Good on Evra. He's been consistent this season and injury free. Cashley on the other hand, broke his ankle.

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              Originally posted by Chicharito View Post
              What is England's youth looking like?

              Ferdinand, Terry, Lampard, Beckham, Cole, etc are may not be in the next world cup or at least that will be their last.

              Who are good english youths coming up? I know they got embarassed in the two youth world cups that happened.
              There are a few talented players coming through. Micah Richards, Chris Smalling, Ryan Shawcross, Jack Rodwell, Jack Wilshere, Dan Gosling, Victor Moses, etc. Not to mention players that are already in or on the fringes of the first team, such as Aaron Lennon, Theo Walcott, James Milner, Ashley Young, Tom Huddlestone, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Gary Cahill and Joe Hart.

              Rodwell is probably the most promising young talent in England at the moment. Looks like he's going to be a very, very good player.

              But yeah, the future of English football ain't all that bad.
              Last edited by Big Vern; 04-26-2010, 06:56 PM.

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                Originally posted by Chicharito View Post
                What is England's youth looking like?

                Ferdinand, Terry, Lampard, Beckham, Cole, etc are may not be in the next world cup or at least that will be their last.

                Who are good english youths coming up? I know they got embarassed in the two youth world cups that happened.
                The thing is England's best young players have been fast tracked into the first team, Rooney has been playing for England since the age of 17/18, Lennon and Walcott did not play many game for England U21's, aside from that i think Huddlestone, Bentley, Noble, Wilshere, Mancienne, Richards will back up the first team in a few years.

                Arsenal have the likes of Gibbs, Lansbury, Frimpong, Murphy, United have Danny Welbeck, Wigan have the kid Victor Moses, Everton Jack Rodwell, Fabian Delph, Nathan Delfouneso from Villa.

                England did not really get embarrassed against Germany, although the result looked that way, what happened was England lost their first choice keeper and put the 3rd choice keeper( Loach) between the sticks, he conceded a silly goal, Germany scored again after that but England had not played badly at all, infact they have played quite well despite that clanger from the GK, second half they came out and threw caution to the wind trying to get back in the game and got caught on the break twice, the score line was not a true reflection of the game imo, although Germany did win and deserved to win, mesut ozil was the best player on the pitch.

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                  england drew with Uzbekistan in the u20 world cup.

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                    Originally posted by Chicharito View Post
                    england drew with Uzbekistan in the u20 world cup.
                    Sounds a bit over the top to say they got embarrassed based on that, ive seen teams like France struggle in the last few years against lesser teams, they needed a gift to get the world cup and its not like Ireland have world class players all over the pitch, if any.

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                      The trouble is with some of these players are that they started the season good but then they faded away in the second half of the campaign.

                      People like Crouch, Heskey, Lennon (though he was injured), Carlton Cole, Jermain Defoe (he's been shocking recently), Cole (got injured) etc.

                      I think Fabio knows who he is taking but he's saying he doesn't to get the best out of the players. Most of the England starting lineup is guaranteed regardless of form. Rio, Terry, Cole, Lampard, Barry, Gerrard, Rooney are all in there even if they play rubbish. Heskey seems to have his place as well he always gets started. Rob Green will be in goal.

                      The only places up for grabs are the right wing and right back. I'd say Wes Brown does a better job at RB than Gary Neville but i'd take them both because of our shortage of RB's. Johnson will probably get first choice but he has been shocking this season.

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