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    How to train for the amateurs?

    Hi people,
    I am 18 years old and I do my best to become as good as I possibly can at boxing. But the thing I struggle with is the training regimen. I don't know how to train.

    Today my training regimen is as follows:
    Mondays: Running for 30-45 min, strength training and shadow boxing

    Tuesdays: Intervals, either running or biking for 3 min high intensity and 1 minute break. I will do this around 4-5 times. And sometimes 60 seconds full intensity and 60 seconds active rest to focus more on the anaerobic part, I will do this for about 12-15 times.
    I will then have a 4 hour break and then go do about 8-10 rounds on the heavy bag and some shadow boxing

    Wednesdays: The same as monday

    Thursdays: The same as tuesdays, except I will also do some intervals with the battle ropes

    Fridays: The same as mondays and wednesdays

    Saturday and sunday are rest days.

    The thing is I don't feel like I am getting better, I have been boxing since I was 11 years old, and now I struggle in sparring with people who are lighter than me ( I am a heavyweight) and people who are less dedicated and who have not been boxing for as long as I have.
    I am just wondering if I should improve my training regimen.
    And do any of you know how the pros train? How do they manage to train for 6 hours a day? I am just curious

    Thanks

    #2
    You have not mentioned a gym or trainer! If you don't have either................................Find a trainer!

    You can't compete without a trainer, it's not like you have experience in the past you can draw from. You need a trainer.

    Ray

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      #3
      Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
      You have not mentioned a gym or trainer! If you don't have either................................Find a trainer!

      You can't compete without a trainer, it's not like you have experience in the past you can draw from. You need a trainer.

      Ray
      Ooops, sorry hahah, I have both a trainer and a gym, and I also compete on a regular basis

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        #4
        You're doing it all wrong so leave your gym asap. Send us some film too.

        8 rounds on the bag is too much for the Am's!

        Run 3x/week. Fcuk biking.

        This should be your workout and in this order:

        Run (3x week)
        Calisthenics (20 minutes)
        Abs (a few hundred)
        Pushups (30 reps minimum)
        Jump Rope (20-30 minutes with no rest)
        Shadowbox with small weights (3, 3 minute rounds with 5's, 4's, and 1's)
        Shadowbox w/o small weights (3 rounds with perfect form)
        Wrap Hands
        Upside Down Bag (3 rounds)
        Heavy Bag (3 rounds, 1st round just left hand --- last round 30 second drills --- no resting no pushing the bag)
        Speed Bag (3 rounds)
        Stretch
        Shower
        Drink Vitamin C
        Last edited by McNulty; 07-22-2017, 11:49 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by MartinHoelland View Post
          Hi people,
          I am 18 years old and I do my best to become as good as I possibly can at boxing. But the thing I struggle with is the training regimen. I don't know how to train.

          Today my training regimen is as follows:
          Mondays: Running for 30-45 min, strength training and shadow boxing

          Tuesdays: Intervals, either running or biking for 3 min high intensity and 1 minute break. I will do this around 4-5 times. And sometimes 60 seconds full intensity and 60 seconds active rest to focus more on the anaerobic part, I will do this for about 12-15 times.
          I will then have a 4 hour break and then go do about 8-10 rounds on the heavy bag and some shadow boxing

          Wednesdays: The same as Monday

          Thursdays: The same as tuesdays, except I will also do some intervals with the battle ropes

          Fridays: The same as mondays and wednesdays

          Saturday and sunday are rest days.

          The thing is I don't feel like I am getting better, I have been boxing since I was 11 years old, and now I struggle in sparring with people who are lighter than me ( I am a heavyweight) and people who are less dedicated and who have not been boxing for as long as I have.
          I am just wondering if I should improve my training regimen.
          And do any of you know how the pros train? How do they manage to train for 6 hours a day? I am just curious

          Thanks
          How often do you spar in the boxing gym? Honestly for me, sparring is the best way to get in shape. You gotta spar people at different levels. People who are different sizes. Sometimes you spar with somebody that's better than you, more experience. Sometimes someone bigger. Sometimes someone smaller, sometimes someone faster, etc etc. Vary up the sparring partners you get. People have different styles. If you spar with pros or if there are any in your gym, ask them what you can work on when you spar next time. Ask the coaches and boxing trainers a lot of questions. Ask your sparring partners questions, share advice. Build off each other. That's how I do it in my gym. But I know every gym has their own culture. If you feel like you don't have the kind of people who want to help you, find a new gym. It's not a big deal. Fighters change gyms all the time.

          You can do all the training outside of the ring that you want. Some of it can help. People can show you things on the bag all day. But if you don't do it in sparring, you won't do it in a fight. That's my perspective on it. Get your cardio work in, eat clean, drink a lot of water whether you workout that day or not. That's my advice bro. The important thing is that you keep learning. Mentally first. Physically 2nd.
          Last edited by Thank Me Later; 07-23-2017, 10:04 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by MartinHoelland View Post
            Ooops, sorry hahah, I have both a trainer and a gym, and I also compete on a regular basis
            If you feel like you aren't improving, you should think about changing trainers. Does your trainer give you attention when you're in training? Somebody who just works the corner during sparring or fights isn't what I consider a trainer. To me, a trainer is a coach. What do sports teams do when their coach isn't making the team better? They get a new coach. Some people have no business trying to train fighters. I've witnessed it myself. Not in my gym. But I've seen people who just work corners. They don't give a f**k about the fighter. You can't tell a fighter to do some ***** in a fight they've never practiced during training and sparring. It doesn't work like that.

            I use to do a lot of training outside of the boxing gym. Interval training. Burpees. Squats. Push ups. Running 3 miles everyday. Weights. Etc. You gotta know your body. Sometimes you don't need to do all that extra stuff. Like I said, it can help. But it doesn't mean it will help. You gotta improve your craft in the sparring sessions. Take what your trainer teaches you, do it on the heavy bag, do it on the mitts, then transition that into sparring. I love sparring. Because it's always a thinking game. If your jab is weak, work on it on the heavy bag and mitts. Throw "good jabs" the whole round for rounds and rounds. Turn the weakness into a strength. If your cross sucks, work on the technique. I always train young fighters to punch up, eye level. Not only does that protect your chin, it conditions your shoulders and arms. Keep the hands up when fatigue sets in.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Thank Me Later View Post
              If you feel like you aren't improving, you should think about changing trainers. Does your trainer give you attention when you're in training? Somebody who just works the corner during sparring or fights isn't what I consider a trainer. To me, a trainer is a coach. What do sports teams do when their coach isn't making the team better? They get a new coach. Some people have no business trying to train fighters. I've witnessed it myself. Not in my gym. But I've seen people who just work corners. They don't give a f**k about the fighter. You can't tell a fighter to do some ***** in a fight they've never practiced during training and sparring. It doesn't work like that.

              I use to do a lot of training outside of the boxing gym. Interval training. Burpees. Squats. Push ups. Running 3 miles everyday. Weights. Etc. You gotta know your body. Sometimes you don't need to do all that extra stuff. Like I said, it can help. But it doesn't mean it will help. You gotta improve your craft in the sparring sessions. Take what your trainer teaches you, do it on the heavy bag, do it on the mitts, then transition that into sparring. I love sparring. Because it's always a thinking game. If your jab is weak, work on it on the heavy bag and mitts. Throw "good jabs" the whole round for rounds and rounds. Turn the weakness into a strength. If your cross sucks, work on the technique. I always train young fighters to punch up, eye level. Not only does that protect your chin, it conditions your shoulders and arms. Keep the hands up when fatigue sets in.
              Damn, that's good info. Thanks man, I have been thinking about changing my trainer for a while now, but the thing is he has trained me since I was 11 and I consider him as my second father. But I guess I got to sacrifice stuff to become the best. He is a good coach, imo, but he has never trained heavyweights or southpaw before. He didn't even tell me about getting the lead foot on the outside of the opponent's, which is some of the biggest advantages a southpaw boxer have. And he always make me spar lighter guys in the gym, such as 165-pounders and 155, while I weigh 230, so I always have to go around 30-40 percent. They are much faster than me, and I feel handicapped when fighting them.

              So I think the best option would be to move to a different gym where they have a coach who really knows what they are talking about

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                #8
                Originally posted by MartinHoelland View Post
                Damn, that's good info. Thanks man, I have been thinking about changing my trainer for a while now, but the thing is he has trained me since I was 11 and I consider him as my second father. But I guess I got to sacrifice stuff to become the best. He is a good coach, imo, but he has never trained heavyweights or southpaw before. He didn't even tell me about getting the lead foot on the outside of the opponent's, which is some of the biggest advantages a southpaw boxer have. And he always make me spar lighter guys in the gym, such as 165-pounders and 155, while I weigh 230, so I always have to go around 30-40 percent. They are much faster than me, and I feel handicapped when fighting them.

                So I think the best option would be to move to a different gym where they have a coach who really knows what they are talking about
                I feel you. Honestly, I would bring your concerns up to your coach. You've been together a long time. You build a bond with your trainer. My trainer has the same affect for me, he's like a father figure. You're both men. Talk it out like men. That's what I would do. Do what feels right. Move on and do your thing if that's what you need. The way your trainer is having you spar smaller guys all the time, it seems like you're being used to build their confidence. Hey, as gym mates, we help each other. That's apart of boxing. But at the same time, the help gotta go both ways. Not just hey, let's throw in this guy to get beat up and improve our other fighters. That's not a good gym culture. That's not a good trainer. Hope you find a way to work things out or find a new gym and trainer. Good luck!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MartinHoelland View Post
                  Damn, that's good info. Thanks man, I have been thinking about changing my trainer for a while now, but the thing is he has trained me since I was 11 and I consider him as my second father. But I guess I got to sacrifice stuff to become the best. He is a good coach, imo, but he has never trained heavyweights or southpaw before. He didn't even tell me about getting the lead foot on the outside of the opponent's, which is some of the biggest advantages a southpaw boxer have. And he always make me spar lighter guys in the gym, such as 165-pounders and 155, while I weigh 230, so I always have to go around 30-40 percent. They are much faster than me, and I feel handicapped when fighting them.

                  So I think the best option would be to move to a different gym where they have a coach who really knows what they are talking about
                  How can he not know that even if he hasnt trained a southpaw?

                  As an orthodox fighter you know to keep your foot on the outside of a southpaw and if he is training guys he must know this. Common sense should have told him it is the reverse from the southpaws perspective

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