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    Hey y'all, been a long time since I've posted any videos. But i'm getting back into my boxing after neglecting it for about a year and could use some advice on what to work on. (No real coach atm, though I have a guy who'se going to start working with me some soon hopefully)
    www youtube com/watch?v=SmzSRKzAweI

    www youtube com/watch?v=E60f1A_bat4

    Just add in the "." where needed as I'm not allowed to post links yet...
    thanks in advance y'all

    #2
    what up bro, i watched a bit of the first video.

    nice work bro, try get a bit lower on your body shots and upper cuts by bending your legs, at the moment they are arm punches. You wana bend your legs and sit your weight down. Hard to explain, but do this by dipping the knee of your back leg, and doing like a squat with your front leg, then put your legs hips and ass into the punch.

    It will come with time. Good work bro, fair play for putting the video up and looking to improve. Keep hustling cuz.

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      #3
      I can tell you have some background lol. Here is what I saw:
      -You throw the uppercut from too far away, that isn't smart because it can be easily missed/countered.
      -Bring back your punches quicker when you throw them
      -You telegraph the hand that you are about to throw. For example the right cross, you bring it back a bit and hold it just enough for someone to tell you are about to throw it. Doesn't happen every time but it happens enough.
      -Your left isn't high enough due in part to the elbows not being tucked
      -Put more of a snap into your punches, you have good form it just seems you push once the punch gets to your arm.

      Good footwork! It might seem like this is a long list but it's really mostly little stuff. If you need me to clarify any of this feel free to ask, I'll keep reviewing the tape for any other stuff.

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        #4
        My coach used to rip into me for doing that kind of work on a light bag like that. Use a heavy bag for power and double-end when you want to circle or work on movement.

        1) You're lifting that lead foot frequently like you're a MT fighter going to block or kick. Get your weight distribution correct and stay on-balance. If I saw a guy doing that I'd use it to time him because I'd know exactly when he's on or off balance, able to throw certain attacks, etc.

        2) If you like your bag to be swinging wildly like that, work against the movement, not with it. Don't punch as it's leaving, do it as it comes back and use combinations that keep the bag in place. It makes sense when you have a live opponent to deal with.

        3) You're not protecting your body at all. Your arms aren't long so it won't be easy, but flaring your elbows doesn't help.

        You look to be returning your punches to guard most of the time, which is great. Work on adding body shots that aren't telegraphed (make them a fluid part of a combination, playing off the straight right is a good start). Your're using your hips and not leaning so you have a solid foundation. Looking good for the most part, aside from that lead foot thing.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
          My coach used to rip into me for doing that kind of work on a light bag like that. Use a heavy bag for power and double-end when you want to circle or work on movement.

          1) You're lifting that lead foot frequently like you're a MT fighter going to block or kick. Get your weight distribution correct and stay on-balance. If I saw a guy doing that I'd use it to time him because I'd know exactly when he's on or off balance, able to throw certain attacks, etc.

          2) If you like your bag to be swinging wildly like that, work against the movement, not with it. Don't punch as it's leaving, do it as it comes back and use combinations that keep the bag in place. It makes sense when you have a live opponent to deal with.

          3) You're not protecting your body at all. Your arms aren't long so it won't be easy, but flaring your elbows doesn't help.

          You look to be returning your punches to guard most of the time, which is great. Work on adding body shots that aren't telegraphed (make them a fluid part of a combination, playing off the straight right is a good start). Your're using your hips and not leaning so you have a solid foundation. Looking good for the most part, aside from that lead foot thing.

          Thanks a TON for the advice from everyone! I'll work on keeping those elbows in and sitting down on the punches more.

          1.) yea, this is a habit I have from kickboxing/muay thai as 90% of the time when I sparred (haven't sparred hard in probably 2 years though) it was kickboxing rules. I haven't had any formal BOXING training (although minimal kickboxing). which is why i'm trying to work on my hands.

          2.) Unfortunately, we don't have any speed bags/double end bags whatsoever...just 3 heavy bags, and then the bag you saw me working on in the video. So if I want to work movement (and uppercuts which I need to practice) that bag is the only option. As I also don't have anyone to hold pads for me (that would be a better option than the bag atleast, lol)

          3.) Will work on this, thanks!

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            #6
            Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop View Post
            I can tell you have some background lol. Here is what I saw:
            -You throw the uppercut from too far away, that isn't smart because it can be easily missed/countered.
            -Bring back your punches quicker when you throw them
            -You telegraph the hand that you are about to throw. For example the right cross, you bring it back a bit and hold it just enough for someone to tell you are about to throw it. Doesn't happen every time but it happens enough.
            -Your left isn't high enough due in part to the elbows not being tucked
            -Put more of a snap into your punches, you have good form it just seems you push once the punch gets to your arm.

            Good footwork! It might seem like this is a long list but it's really mostly little stuff. If you need me to clarify any of this feel free to ask, I'll keep reviewing the tape for any other stuff.
            1.) will definitely work on this, what do you think about things like long upper cuts then? Just curious (I know traditionally they're close in, but i've definitely seen people throw em at range to varying success)

            2.) Will definitely work on this, thanks

            3.) will work on tucking in!

            4.) I've been told this before, but it's hard for me to feel myself actually doing this "push". Any advice on getting that snap in there?

            Thanks, footwork is probably the single thing i've spent the most time on in terms of boxing (I come from a grappling/mma background. And MMA footwork is many times horrendous...lol)

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              #7
              Originally posted by Gfreak045 View Post
              1.) will definitely work on this, what do you think about things like long upper cuts then? Just curious (I know traditionally they're close in, but i've definitely seen people throw em at range to varying success)

              2.) Will definitely work on this, thanks

              3.) will work on tucking in!

              4.) I've been told this before, but it's hard for me to feel myself actually doing this "push". Any advice on getting that snap in there?

              Thanks, footwork is probably the single thing i've spent the most time on in terms of boxing (I come from a grappling/mma background. And MMA footwork is many times horrendous...lol)
              I personally don't like long uppercuts and they aren't really something to throw often. Reason being is the entire movement of the uppercut leaves you open more so than just about any punch, you have to drop your hand which lets your opponent counter with a straight punch or hook. We throw them on the inside because there is less room for the opponent to throw a heavy shot as well as it being a short punch. Throwing it from long away defeats the purpose of it being a short, powerful punch. Now of course there are certain circumstances where the lead uppercut is appropriate but those are rare and still dangerous. Fact is it just leaves you too open and unprotected.

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