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    I want to start boxing but there is the stance

    First off I want to say that I have only trained boxing home with my brother for about 1 year. He goes to boxing for many years and now he is an amatuer boxer.

    The problem is:

    I am naturally right handed and left footed. My left hand is very, very weak, I barely can punch with it. . My good leg is the left one. The problem is that I got used to fight in southpaw. Every time when I try to fight/train orthodox I can’t move on my feet, i can’t move my head and I can’t fight relaxed and I feel completely immobile with zero dexterity.
    Next week I will go for the first time in a boxing gym to train. Until now I only trained boxing in my home with my brother. My brother is doing boxing for many years, he is an amatuer boxer like I said. He told me that the coach will force me to fight orthodox. Is that true? And is there a problem if I refuse to fight orthodox and I choose southpaw though my right hand is much stronger and better?

    I have tried to learn to fight in orthodox stance, but I just can't learn no matter for how long I try. It seems that I just can't move on my feet, I can't move my head and I'm not fighting relaxed. Basically i'm completely immobile with zero dexterity. I'm like a immobile rock if I train in orthodox stance.

    Thank you.
    Last edited by admin22; 12-31-2015, 06:27 PM.

    #2
    Originally posted by admin22 View Post
    First off I want to say that I have only trained boxing home with my brother for about 1 year. He goes to boxing for many years and now he is an amatuer boxer.

    The problem is:

    I am naturally right handed and left footed. My left hand is very, very weak, I barely can punch with it. . My good leg is the left one. The problem is that I got used to fight in southpaw. Every time when I try to fight/train orthodox I can’t move on my feet, i can’t move my head and I can’t fight relaxed and I feel completely immobile with zero dexterity.
    Next week I will go for the first time in a boxing gym to train. Until now I only trained boxing in my home with my brother. My brother is doing boxing for many years, he is an amatuer boxer like I said. He told me that the coach will force me to fight orthodox. Is that true? And is there a problem if I refuse to fight orthodox and I choose southpaw though my right hand is much stronger and better?

    I have tried to learn to fight in orthodox stance, but I just can't learn no matter for how long I try. It seems that I just can't move on my feet, I can't move my head and I'm not fighting relaxed. Basically i'm completely immobile with zero dexterity. I'm like a immobile rock if I train in orthodox stance.

    Thank you.
    If you tell your trainer you are southpaw...that's how he will see you. Though you are more of a converted stance. Front loaded. That part may get some coaches scratching they head a bit.. but just say you are like Cotto or Oscar (only a southpaw version), and they may work with you.

    Honestly... the only reason i can see your right leg and left hand being weak is a deficit of technique. Coaches may treat you like you have no prior experience and build you from the ground up. It's probably what I would do. But I would listen and work with you if you absolutely insist that's your style. A competent converted fighter would have some tactical advantage against guys because it's a different look than they are accustomed to. Key word: competent.

    Just go into the gym and see what develops.. be ready to empty your cup of what you think u know. If you end up converted stance.. fine... if you end up finding strength in your right leg and left hand....even better... because then you will be a more complete and versatile fighter.

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      #3
      Thank you for your response.

      The problem is also that when I have my weak leg in the back it hurts and sometimes when I move doesn't even sustain my weight ( only the foot and the foot wrist parts of the leg). Also the head movement and the guard is Fuucked up too. Like I said in southpaw I feel incrediblle smooth. I feel like mayweather when I move and I feel the fight. The problem is that my left hand is so weak that it feels like I'm throwing it not punching with it.
      Last edited by admin22; 12-31-2015, 08:18 PM.

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        #4
        Cotto and Oscar De La Hoya are the same way. Don't think much on it.

        Train how you feel most comfortable. If that's southpaw, use that stance.

        The thing about boxing is, no one is just a polished-finished product from the start. That's not how this game goes. There's people with talent or some tools, strengths. Raw ability. Now the job of the fighter and the coach is to refine and build around those strengths, ultimately making a finished product.

        So don't worry about the bs. Start how you feel comfortable, if that's southpaw, fight southpaw. Because the #1 punch in boxing is the jab, so southpaw it is, since you can't fight out the orthodox.

        Lack a left hand? Train it. Lack head movement? Train it. Lack footwork? Train it.

        Personal experience. I literally only worked on footwork for 6 rounds straight before ever hitting pads, bags, anything and 3 rounds straight before ever throwing a punch for shadowboxing.

        That's just a real world example of what I mean. At the end, it's up to you bro. Do what it do.
        Last edited by F l i c k e r; 12-31-2015, 09:13 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by admin22 View Post
          First off I want to say that I have only trained boxing home with my brother for about 1 year. He goes to boxing for many years and now he is an amatuer boxer.

          The problem is:

          I am naturally right handed and left footed. My left hand is very, very weak, I barely can punch with it. . My good leg is the left one. The problem is that I got used to fight in southpaw. Every time when I try to fight/train orthodox I can’t move on my feet, i can’t move my head and I can’t fight relaxed and I feel completely immobile with zero dexterity.
          Next week I will go for the first time in a boxing gym to train. Until now I only trained boxing in my home with my brother. My brother is doing boxing for many years, he is an amatuer boxer like I said. He told me that the coach will force me to fight orthodox. Is that true? And is there a problem if I refuse to fight orthodox and I choose southpaw though my right hand is much stronger and better?

          I have tried to learn to fight in orthodox stance, but I just can't learn no matter for how long I try. It seems that I just can't move on my feet, I can't move my head and I'm not fighting relaxed. Basically i'm completely immobile with zero dexterity. I'm like a immobile rock if I train in orthodox stance.

          Thank you.

          There is a very common ailment in the boxing world, it's called Newbie. Just get there and listen to your instructor. Your left hand is weak only because you have not educated it.

          And WTF is this "can't".................
          Last edited by Rockin'; 01-01-2016, 03:38 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by admin22 View Post
            The problem is also that when I have my weak leg in the back it hurts a lot and sometimes when I move doesn't even sustain my weight ( only the foot and the foot wrist parts of the leg). Also the head movement and the guard is Fuucked up too. Like I said in southpaw I feel incrediblle smooth. I feel like mayweather when I move and I feel the fight. The problem is that my left hand is so weak that it feels like I'm not even punching with it, more like I'm throwing it around without any power or precision.

            So if my weak leg so weak like I described in this post, won't it be smarter to become a southpaw? Both my right leg and and left hand are incredibly weak.
            Last edited by admin22; 01-03-2016, 04:45 PM.

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              #7
              My opinion is go with orthodox. You don't want your strong hand out front if you have nothing to follow it up with in your weak hand. Going orthodox you are going to be throwing a lot of jabs and it is doing to develop that left hand. Your left leg is stronger so in support of having a weak left hand, your left hook will benefit from that. You are going to be moving in the orthodox stance and working that right leg which will strengthen it. The more you put into both via training the less they are going to be deficits and more likely to become assets.

              If you go southpaw, starting out you are going to have a strong jab, maybe decent hook, and **** straight left. It's going to take more to develop a straight left and good hook as you won't be utilizing them as much while doing other punches etc for development. You will only be developing the right leg for any power when training on hooks and while you will be throwing a fair amount of straight lefts in southpaw, you won't be doing it nearly as much as jabbing with the left in orthodox.

              You can go either route however being on your right foot all of the time and punching with your left all of the time is going to develop you quicker. Once you have both strengthened, you can switch to southpaw if it is more comfortable. I personally pick one day a week and work southpaw the whole time I'm training. You never know what you will need and when, so it's nice to be prepared

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                #8
                You MUST work on your weaknesses first before you work on your strengths. That means forcing your ass to use that "weak" left hand as much as possible.

                I'm not saying you HAVE to be orthodox. But, if you're so resistant to just learn the stance how do you expect to learn anything else?

                All boxing is is forcing yourself to build neural connections with your body. Everything feels awkward at first, but you work on it and **** will come full circle. It's just like when you got your first job and the tasks you were given seemed hard or daunting... couple months pass by and those same tasks could be done in your sleep.

                That's boxing.

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