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    #41
    Originally posted by BootyDew View Post
    The only problem with lifting weights is gaining weight.

    If you're a heavyweight there is no reason whatsoever to not lift, the talk of losing flexibility fluidity etc... is broscience.

    If you're in the lower weight classes and boiling yourself down to make the weight to be on par or have an advantage in height and reach, lifting weights will just make it harder to make weight in your division, so I wouldn't recommend it.
    Why do you think that lifting weights would make it difficult to make weight? There's weight classes in power lifting and olympic lifting and they get stronger while maintaining the same weight during competition.

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      #42
      Originally posted by BootyDew View Post
      The only problem with lifting weights is gaining weight.

      If you're a heavyweight there is no reason whatsoever to not lift, the talk of losing flexibility fluidity etc... is broscience.

      If you're in the lower weight classes and boiling yourself down to make the weight to be on par or have an advantage in height and reach, lifting weights will just make it harder to make weight in your division, so I wouldn't recommend it.
      This is simply not true. Some researchers have even stated that weightlifting actually burns more calories than certain cardio exercises. Lifting weights won't automatically bulk you up 20 pounds like some people think. Ask dudes who lift just how hard it is for some of them to put on weight, they have to eat a ton of food along with a strict weight lifting routine (which no boxer would realistically be able to do along with boxing). I see nothing wrong with boxers of any weight class weightlifting 2-3 times a week to build strength and explosiveness.
      Last edited by _original_; 08-21-2014, 01:38 PM.

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        #43
        My current split is like this:

        Monday - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
        Tuesday - Legs/Back/Biceps
        Wednesday - Abs/Cardio/Core
        Thursday - Shoulders/Chest
        Friday - Back/Legs

        For example Monday I'll do a heavy chest workout and then my shoulders secondary, usually lighter and high reps, and then Thursday will be the other way round. This week I bought a pair of bag mitts and done a few rounds on the heavy bags on my cardio day, about 20-25 minutes. God damn. Between my little finger and ring finger on both hands afterwards I had these sort of red, bleeding under the skin marks, same kind you get on your shoulders after squating really heavy sometimes. And my knuckles and joints were aching the day after so bad! Haha.

        I intend to keep it up though as my hands and joints just need conditioning. Also was surprised how much you engage your back and abs just hitting a bag? Really need to work on my footwork, and staying busy while in range. Soon going to switch to the "All Pro" split from Bodybuilding.com, basically you do a Heavy, Medium and Light split with a day off in between. So I hope to work up to two "bag" days per week, 30-45 mins each? Is that acceptable? Just ordered some wraps too for the added support/protection.

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          #44
          Originally posted by BootyDew View Post
          The only problem with lifting weights is gaining weight.

          If you're a heavyweight there is no reason whatsoever to not lift, the talk of losing flexibility fluidity etc... is broscience.

          If you're in the lower weight classes and boiling yourself down to make the weight to be on par or have an advantage in height and reach, lifting weights will just make it harder to make weight in your division, so I wouldn't recommend it.
          Not true at all. You can lift weights for strength without bulking. You're not going to be lifting 8 to 12 reps for 5 sets for hypertrophy. You're going to be in the 1-5 rep range to build explosive strength.

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            #45
            Originally posted by HedonisticFrog View Post
            Why do you think that lifting weights would make it difficult to make weight? There's weight classes in power lifting and olympic lifting and they get stronger while maintaining the same weight during competition.
            Originally posted by johnm is... View Post
            Not true at all. You can lift weights for strength without bulking. You're not going to be lifting 8 to 12 reps for 5 sets for hypertrophy. You're going to be in the 1-5 rep range to build explosive strength.
            Good points, if you can keep it in that range, and gain strength without gaining too much weight than that is good I guess..

            But some people have good bodybuilding genetics and get huge after only a month or so of lifting... plus noob gains would add weight to your frame.

            All in all if you can stick to the strength range and gain strength without adding too much bulk then I don't see much wrong with it.

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              #46
              Like everyone else has said, lifting weights is ok, just don't go for muscle mass if you're trying to compliment your boxing.

              You want to maintain optimum muscular functionality. I personally just stick with resistance training and calisthenics.

              A lot of weight training essentially involves shortening and tightening the muscle fibers, making them more prone to injury. Happens all the time in the NFL, but hose cases are more extreme as opposed to a boxer using that regime, in theory.

              It also makes the muscle more dense. The more dense it is, the more oxygen it requires, so your arms get tired quicker.. unless you have a ridiculous compensation regime that compliments the muscle endurance portion, but that may be difficult to squeeze in.

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                #47
                Originally posted by BG_Knocc_Out View Post
                Like everyone else has said, lifting weights is ok, just don't go for muscle mass if you're trying to compliment your boxing.

                You want to maintain optimum muscular functionality. I personally just stick with resistance training and calisthenics.

                A lot of weight training essentially involves shortening and tightening the muscle fibers, making them more prone to injury. Happens all the time in the NFL, but hose cases are more extreme as opposed to a boxer using that regime, in theory.

                It also makes the muscle more dense. The more dense it is, the more oxygen it requires, so your arms get tired quicker.. unless you have a ridiculous compensation regime that compliments the muscle endurance portion, but that may be difficult to squeeze in.
                There's no real difference between calisthenics and weight lifting except for what muscle groups it targets in what proportion. You use your muscles to move weight whether it's a barbell or your body mass.

                Lifting weights doesn't make you more prone to injury unless you are overtraining. Weight lifting is actually one of the safest exercises you can do if done with proper form. You're actually over ten times more likely to hurt yourself playing basketball than powerlifting.

                Muscle has the same density and that never changes, the only thing that can change is your total muscle mass. Your muscle fibers don't squeeze water out the stronger you get.

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                  #48
                  I have been doing functional training at the lab in bkk....perfect. I feel great when I go to boxing training

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