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    A break down of why Adrien Broner is so skilled

    Not at all fully encompassing, but wanted to point out some nuance in Broner's technique and skills. You guys can keep talking about his out the ring antics, but I prefer to talk about the skill he's displaying inside the ring.

    Last edited by mconstantine; 04-16-2013, 07:27 AM.

    #2
    Was that your first video? Good stuff that was a great breakdown. Looking forward to more

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      #3
      Originally posted by shs101 View Post
      Was that your first video? Good stuff that was a great breakdown. Looking forward to more
      Thanks and Yea, first video. Like the page on Facebook.com/WhereBoxingLives

      Will post more there as I get more time to do them.

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        #4
        That guy is really good and breaking it down. I did 1 on broner a few weeks ago also

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          #5
          As much as I analyze fights, I should have been doing these a long time ago. I'll be doing them more often.

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            #6
            Not bad for a first break down but it seems like you are over simplifying things and pointing out the obvious. For example Broner "leaning back" wasn't a function of him literally leaning back. He just has a back foot heavy stance. His posture was good while Demarco was hunched over leaning in and eating shots.

            Not that what you were saying was entirely incorrect but if your going to spend the time to do a break down I think people want to see the small technicalities they wouldn't normally observe. Ie. you were pointing out his jab after throwing the right uppercut but what EXACTLY was it used for. Did he control his head? Was it just to create distance or an angle. Was it used as a set up or to impair his vision?

            Just some ideas for next time.

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              #7
              Originally posted by TheBodySnatcher View Post
              Not bad for a first break down but it seems like you are over simplifying things and pointing out the obvious. For example Broner "leaning back" wasn't a function of him literally leaning back. He just has a back foot heavy stance. His posture was good while Demarco was hunched over leaning in and eating shots.

              Not that what you were saying was entirely incorrect but if your going to spend the time to do a break down I think people want to see the small technicalities they wouldn't normally observe. Ie. you were pointing out his jab after throwing the right uppercut but what EXACTLY was it used for. Did he control his head? Was it just to create distance or an angle. Was it used as a set up or to impair his vision?

              Just some ideas for next time.
              I thought it was a great break down.

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                #8
                Originally posted by TheBodySnatcher View Post
                Not bad for a first break down but it seems like you are over simplifying things and pointing out the obvious. For example Broner "leaning back" wasn't a function of him literally leaning back. He just has a back foot heavy stance. His posture was good while Demarco was hunched over leaning in and eating shots.

                Not that what you were saying was entirely incorrect but if your going to spend the time to do a break down I think people want to see the small technicalities they wouldn't normally observe. Ie. you were pointing out his jab after throwing the right uppercut but what EXACTLY was it used for. Did he control his head? Was it just to create distance or an angle. Was it used as a set up or to impair his vision?

                Just some ideas for next time.
                Not sure you were listening closely. I pointed out these exact things bolded in the video.

                And yes his leaning back is a product of his stance, but it's not obvious that how that feature of his stance can lead to him being more effective at throwing lead right hands. Lead right hands are punches no professional should regularly take. The rookie response to credit this is to point out Broner's speed. The intermediate response to this is to point out Broner's flawless technique of throwing the right directly from his chin. The advanced response is to break down how his leaning back just seals the deal for making the shot that much more effective. It's also not obvious how DeMarco kept eating upper cut after upper cut because Broner concealed the punch so well before throwing it.

                Kudos to you if these things are obvious, but I guarantee you they aren't for most.

                Also nothing wrong with simple...when it's effective.

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                  #9
                  Awesome breakdown. Every little movement was analyzed which made this really informative.
                  I'll also be looking for more of these videos from you, so please keep them coming.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mconstantine View Post
                    Not sure you were listening closely. I pointed out these exact things bolded in the video.

                    And yes his leaning back is a product of his stance, but it's not obvious that how that feature of his stance can lead to him being more effective at throwing lead right hands. Lead right hands are punches no professional should regularly take. The rookie response to credit this is to point out Broner's speed. The intermediate response to this is to point out Broner's flawless technique of throwing the right directly from his chin. The advanced response is to break down how his leaning back just seals the deal for making the shot that much more effective. It's also not obvious how DeMarco kept eating upper cut after upper cut because Broner concealed the punch so well before throwing it.

                    Kudos to you if these things are obvious, but I guarantee you they aren't for most.

                    Also nothing wrong with simple...when it's effective.
                    Like I said I'm not saying you didn't mention those things I'm just saying I would have preferred more detail. But thats just my point of view, I'm sure less knowledgable fans might appreciate you pointing out those things (and I don't mean that negatively).

                    But I respectfully disagree with some of the points you made, maybe its just choice of words. I don't like the word "lean" because it sounds like he is bending or moving off center. Really he is standing perfectly straight about 70% of his weight on his back foot. The reason DeMarco keeps getting hit with that lead right hand is because he really is LEANING forward. And misunderstanding Broners range which you are right is partially a by product of his stance. But many great boxers have thrown lead rights consistently it's all about the set up.

                    Also the right uppercut was something I thought was painfully obvious but I guess not. To me it looked like Broner was just shoulder rolling and throwing that right which is not something magical he did (not that it doesn't take skill). The reason DeMarco is eating upper cuts is because he has his hands at his temples and is hunched over leading with his face. He also continues to stay in the same position after continuing to get hit.

                    I understand a good boxer makes another boxer look bad and that Broner knew what he was doing. But DeMarco was out classed and basically took a beating that he didn't have too if he had made some slight corrections. However still respect to Broner in the end boxing is about having your opponent assist you in kicking his own ass which is what Broner did.

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