creating speed

[fabioakadekat]

Using wrist weights while shadow boxing or hitting the bag, is that an effective way to improve speed?

Thnx

[led]

Using wrist weights while shadow boxing or hitting the bag, is that an effective way to improve speed?

Thnx

tons of practice will make you faster. am not really sure, but some of my friends who does that injured themselve.

[Spartacus Sully]

Using wrist weights while shadow boxing or hitting the bag, is that an effective way to improve speed?

Thnx

sure, i allways use 1 lb weights when i shadow box spar or hit the bag their called gloves.

I would never reccomend hitting the bag with any additional weight attached to your wrist or hand aside from an actual boxing glove.

shadow boxing with weights can help speed if you spend time shadow boxing with out weights in the same session, 1 lb is plenty and you dont really need more then 4 lbs in my opinion and if you do increase the weight never more then a lb at a time if you jump from 4 to 8 lbs your never going to get used to 8 lbs where as if you jump from 4-5 5-6 6-7 and 7-8 by the time you get to 8 youll be punching just like you were at 4 lbs.

[Sugarj]

I've done weighted shadow boxing in the past with small 2Kg dumbells in each hand. Its a great stamina building exercise and your hands dont half feel light and fast when you put the weights down after a couple of rounds.

The problem is, I've actually read that the perceived increase in speed is actually an illusion and that it is not actually a handspeed building exercise at all. I've no doubt that is a great cardio exercise though.

Actual handspeed improvement appears to actually stem from punching as fast as possible without weights hindering your speed in training. I'd recommend extended training on a fast wall to ceiling ball, though not everyone is genetically gifted towards having fast hands regardless.

[LoadedWraps]

use a speed bag.
also use a heavy bag, focusing on speed, the snap of the punch, and not power.
mitts as well. I have dramatically improved my speed with only the last two in less than two weeks before.
I occasionally shadow box with weights but not often, I only do it to practice keeping my hands up really, so I don't tire in a long fight. You can also injure yourself throwing punches with too much weight you can easily pull a muscle, if you do decide to do it do not throw punches at full speed.

[Klemman]

Hitting a heavy bag with wrist weights is a great way to get injured. There are a lot of components to speed. The best way to have it is having parents who are fast--- genetics.

You can build strength and explosiveness with weights and such, which are components of speed, but not the speed I think you are looking for.
That comes from enhancing your nervous system, not your muscular.

In Special Forces they have a mantra, "Smooth is Fast". Work on your technique, eliminate unneccessary movements, become more efficient.
Work on staying relaxed until you make contact. THis will not only make you faster, but less tired as well-- which will help you from losing speed as the fight goes on.

Finally, sometimes what we think is fast, is actually just being in the right position and great timing. You can develop that too. You can get that by working the pads and sparring.

[killsomething]

IMO the weights are ******. I think if anything they could deteriorate your muscles and cause development of slow-twitch muscle, and there's really no studies showing them to be effective. Obviously you feel faster when you put the weight down, but you aren't.

My coach (who is one fast mother****er) always told us that to get faster you need to THINK about punching faster, moving faster, doing everything faster. It's the intent that improves your speed, not the actual action. I think it works, but I have absolutely no way of proving it.

Also, I smashed my thumb between weights while I was shadowboxing once, so **** that **** lol

[Spartacus Sully]

IMO the weights are ******. I think if anything they could deteriorate your muscles and cause development of slow-twitch muscle, and there's really no studies showing them to be effective. Obviously you feel faster when you put the weight down, but you aren't.

My coach (who is one fast mother****er) always told us that to get faster you need to THINK about punching faster, moving faster, doing everything faster. It's the intent that improves your speed, not the actual action. I think it works, but I have absolutely no way of proving it.

and obiviously if you feel faster and think your faster then your going to be doing exactly what you reccomend, thinking about punching faster.

and really training slow twitch muscles will never make you slow unless thats all you do and if your training for boxing its impossible to only train slow twitch muscles.

and im pretty sure there are studies that show that training your slow twitch fibers can greatly increase the stamina of your fast twitch fibers as your slow twitch muscles are the main source of oxygen and thus the main muscles to break down lactate acid.

as well there are studies that show that slow twitch fibers play a major role in fine motor skills like punching blocking parrying thus influencing accurecy and the coordination of a punch increasing ones readiness to punch and smoothness of a punch making the punch faster.

plus as the nature of the muscle and the way its trained it barely gains any mass at all so you can train the hell out of your slow twitch muscles and not worry about bulking up.

[Suckmedry]

The process of actually making speed in a mom & pop operation requires chemicals and among these you have: Flammable solvents such as methyl alcohol or acetone (ie: nail polish remover) hydrochloric acid and other acids, Red Devil Lye (Drano) Black Iodine crystals, Mineral Spirits, camping stove fuel, match stick strikers (phosphorus) Engine Starter Fluid (ether) Muriatic/Hydrochloric Acid, Benzine, Sulphuric Acid (Battery Acid) Epsom Salts, Lithium Batteries, Sodium Metal, Anhydrous Ammonia,


You could also have emergency road flares, White Gasoline, Phenyl-2-Propane, Cough, Cold & Flu tablets, Energy Boosters, Bronchodialators, Diet Aids, cyanide compounds, mercury, etc. etc. etc. You may notice that many web sites list "Heet" as one of the ingredients for manufacturing speed and some of these sites state that it's a rub used for "aches and pains." First of all, "Heet" is a brand name for a wide variety of automotive products ranging from starter fluid to windshield washer fluid. The "Heet" used in speed production is the automotive product containing ether, (shown above) not the rub for aches and pains.

Speedamphetamine "Cooking Utensils"

Speed-making utensils will consist of common glass cooking dishes, plastic beverage and food containers, coffee filters, hot plates, pressure cookers, microwaves, gas cans, plus other makeshift equipment. To show you the difference between the small "mom and pop" lab and a more sophisticated speed lab, the mom and pop lab typically uses coffee filters to strain out impurities during the cooking process. In a larger lab, those coffee filters are often replaced with entire bed sheets or screen doors. You don't have to be a superlab to cook up "super" amounts of speed.

Small Speed Labs Are Particularly Vulnerable To Explosions And Fires
Low level speed cooks will heat flammable liquids over open flames, on electric burners that sit on top of wobbly tables, beds, or on crowded kitchen or bathroom countertops. While small level speed labs may sometimes look professional, most are thrown together quickly with little or no attention to safety. It's not at all uncommon for law enforcement to find hazardous chemicals stored in the same refrigerator or in the same dishwasher as baby formula and feeding bottles.


Cooking Speed - "The Addiction Within The Addiction"

People who make speedamphetamine are referred to as speed "cooks," and the psychological grip of speed is so profound and "complete," even the act of cooking speed becomes psychologically addictive for many people. We know that "ritual" plays an important role in addiction, and it seems that the ritual involved with cooking speed actually adds another "layer" of addiction or obsession to the total equation.

The "High" Of Cooking Speedamphetamine

Many former speed cooks report that they actually derived a type of "high" just from manufacturing the drug, even when vapors were properly contained and ventilated out of the cooking area. Moreover, many people currently in prison or jail for cooking speed report that as strong as their urge is to use speed again once they're released, there's an equally strong urge to begin cooking it again. This strikes us as a rather persuasive argument to the idea that simply locking up speed users and speed cooks without proper treatment for speed addiction doesn't solve problems, it just defers them or makes them worse.

Speedamphetamine - The Gift That Keeps On Giving?

Perhaps more importantly, most speed cooks love to train other speed cooks. While it's obviously impossible to nail down hard figures, it's believed that the average speed cook will train between eight and eleven other people per year. There's even a certain pride and status factor in the speed "community" for someone who is recognized as a "good cook." When speed cooks find each other in prison or jail, they trade and refine recipes for making speed, and they train others who want to learn.

We've been told by more than one person that if you want to learn the fine points of making speed, just get sent to jail or prison, because in many areas of North America, jails and prisons are like taking Speed Cooking 101.

On the next page, we're going to look at some of the dangers the speed lab poses from a variety of perspectives, including the dangers for first responders and actual occupants of a speed lab. As you'll see, this is another ancillary problem with speed that you don't find with other drugs. Relatively speaking, first responders faces little risk to their health when busting a marijuana grow operation, but it's a different story with speedamphetamine. In our opinion, they should be getting additional danger pay.

[_lefthook]

The process of actually making speed in a mom & pop operation requires chemicals and among these you have: Flammable solvents such as methyl alcohol or acetone (ie: nail polish remover) hydrochloric acid and other acids, Red Devil Lye (Drano) Black Iodine crystals, Mineral Spirits, camping stove fuel, match stick strikers (phosphorus) Engine Starter Fluid (ether) Muriatic/Hydrochloric Acid, Benzine, Sulphuric Acid (Battery Acid) Epsom Salts, Lithium Batteries, Sodium Metal, Anhydrous Ammonia,


You could also have emergency road flares, White Gasoline, Phenyl-2-Propane, Cough, Cold & Flu tablets, Energy Boosters, Bronchodialators, Diet Aids, cyanide compounds, mercury, etc. etc. etc. You may notice that many web sites list "Heet" as one of the ingredients for manufacturing speed and some of these sites state that it's a rub used for "aches and pains." First of all, "Heet" is a brand name for a wide variety of automotive products ranging from starter fluid to windshield washer fluid. The "Heet" used in speed production is the automotive product containing ether, (shown above) not the rub for aches and pains.

Speedamphetamine "Cooking Utensils"

Speed-making utensils will consist of common glass cooking dishes, plastic beverage and food containers, coffee filters, hot plates, pressure cookers, microwaves, gas cans, plus other makeshift equipment. To show you the difference between the small "mom and pop" lab and a more sophisticated speed lab, the mom and pop lab typically uses coffee filters to strain out impurities during the cooking process. In a larger lab, those coffee filters are often replaced with entire bed sheets or screen doors. You don't have to be a superlab to cook up "super" amounts of speed.

Small Speed Labs Are Particularly Vulnerable To Explosions And Fires
Low level speed cooks will heat flammable liquids over open flames, on electric burners that sit on top of wobbly tables, beds, or on crowded kitchen or bathroom countertops. While small level speed labs may sometimes look professional, most are thrown together quickly with little or no attention to safety. It's not at all uncommon for law enforcement to find hazardous chemicals stored in the same refrigerator or in the same dishwasher as baby formula and feeding bottles.


Cooking Speed - "The Addiction Within The Addiction"

People who make speedamphetamine are referred to as speed "cooks," and the psychological grip of speed is so profound and "complete," even the act of cooking speed becomes psychologically addictive for many people. We know that "ritual" plays an important role in addiction, and it seems that the ritual involved with cooking speed actually adds another "layer" of addiction or obsession to the total equation.

The "High" Of Cooking Speedamphetamine

Many former speed cooks report that they actually derived a type of "high" just from manufacturing the drug, even when vapors were properly contained and ventilated out of the cooking area. Moreover, many people currently in prison or jail for cooking speed report that as strong as their urge is to use speed again once they're released, there's an equally strong urge to begin cooking it again. This strikes us as a rather persuasive argument to the idea that simply locking up speed users and speed cooks without proper treatment for speed addiction doesn't solve problems, it just defers them or makes them worse.

Speedamphetamine - The Gift That Keeps On Giving?

Perhaps more importantly, most speed cooks love to train other speed cooks. While it's obviously impossible to nail down hard figures, it's believed that the average speed cook will train between eight and eleven other people per year. There's even a certain pride and status factor in the speed "community" for someone who is recognized as a "good cook." When speed cooks find each other in prison or jail, they trade and refine recipes for making speed, and they train others who want to learn.

We've been told by more than one person that if you want to learn the fine points of making speed, just get sent to jail or prison, because in many areas of North America, jails and prisons are like taking Speed Cooking 101.

On the next page, we're going to look at some of the dangers the speed lab poses from a variety of perspectives, including the dangers for first responders and actual occupants of a speed lab. As you'll see, this is another ancillary problem with speed that you don't find with other drugs. Relatively speaking, first responders faces little risk to their health when busting a marijuana grow operation, but it's a different story with speedamphetamine. In our opinion, they should be getting additional danger pay.

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