Gym/Weights ...

[superiorathlete]

Is gonna the gym and lifting weights benificial for boxing? I tend to go twice a week and do light sets,like 3 sets of 20,or 3 sets of 15, i do this for endurance/
I was wondering what you guys think of weight training for boxing? and what or if u go to the gym... what kind of weights do u do?

Cheers

[luv4boxing84]

I have been boxing for 11 years now and the first three all i did was 15-20 reps of everything. After reading that the fastest man in the world at the time, Michael Johnson, power lifted i switched. For a long time i did power lifting, along side my boxing training and I gained nothing but speed and power. Never once did i feel it effected my endurance like everyone claims.
Now I have switched to a lot of olympic lifting. The clean and jerk, and the snatch. And I have seen another big jump in speed, power and balance. I'm 160 and I hit harder than any heavy weight in my gym. Don't listen to this high rep crap that gets tossed around. Look up some scientific studies on the net about olympic lifting, plyometrics and power lifting. It will put you ten steps ahead of everyone else doing endless body weight push ups and high rep lifts with weights my little sister could man handle.

[TheNegation]

I have been boxing for 11 years now and the first three all i did was 15-20 reps of everything. After reading that the fastest man in the world at the time, Michael Johnson, power lifted i switched. For a long time i did power lifting, along side my boxing training and I gained nothing but speed and power. Never once did i feel it effected my endurance like everyone claims.
Now I have switched to a lot of olympic lifting. The clean and jerk, and the snatch. And I have seen another big jump in speed, power and balance. I'm 160 and I hit harder than any heavy weight in my gym. Don't listen to this high rep crap that gets tossed around. Look up some scientific studies on the net about olympic lifting, plyometrics and power lifting. It will put you ten steps ahead of everyone else doing endless body weight push ups and high rep lifts with weights my little sister could man handle.

I like this guy!!

[Suckmedry]

I like this guy!!

But weights will make you inflexible and slow!!! You will become a muscle bound bodybuilder !!!! Lol

[luv4boxing84]

I stretch after every workout and once a day on my days off. I'm more limber than I ever was before weights. Easy fix, just have to know how to do it right. Usian Bolt powerlifts, guy is really flexible and a little fast. Lol. Stretching is really important though, but it is trainable, just like speed, power, strength and endurance. And you can improve them all at the same time.

[EzzardFan]

Weights are just what you need... for a body building contest. Trust me you'll look GREAT at the weigh in.

Weights are promoted by every expert in sports science (tm), all of whom earn their bread and butter prescribing weight training and nutritional supplements (tm).

Weights are come highly recommended by everyone that currently is using weights.

Me personally... I was unfortunate enough to weight train for 18 years. In fact I was even in the process of co-authoring a book on weight lifting for MMA when I blew out both a rotator cuff and then both my elbows within the space of a year. There ended my weight training career. Never did finish that book either.

Most people would have been knowledgeable to give up fighting at that point. After all according to all those sports scientists (tm), it's not really possible to ever fully recover from either of those injuries. And even if you do recover ho on earth can you continue to box if you aren't able to support it with all that necessary weight training. And even if in desperation you resorted to all those stone age calisthenics then you'd get your ass kicked by all those guys still benefitting from their scientifically superior (tm) weight training regimes. No best grab the pipe and slippers, and look forward to spending your life propping up bars boring younger people with tales of your glory days. All that aged only 37.

Unfortunately I wasn't smart enough to listen to those Sport Scientists (tm), instead I took the advice of a 57 year old calisthenics expert. Clearly he's a genetics freak - how else could anyone explain his phenomenal strength at that age, after all couldn't be 40 years of stone age training could it? By sheer fluke the exercises he recommended cured my elbows and rotators cuffs within 5 months. All the experts agree that in reality the 15 min massage and ultrasound that I was given months previously by a sports physio (tm) was what really did it, just a delayed reaction.

Anyway ******ly I continued with the calisthenics, some kinetic tension, some isometrics, and lots and lots of boxing. I mean whoever heard of someone training for boxing by actually boxing? What a waste of time that would have been far better spent doing something productive like lifting weights.

So here I am at 39. I have less body fat, better cardio, I'm more coordinated, haven't sustained a single injury (other than a cut to my right cornea), and my muscles have far better tone, and are far stronger for their size than they ever were while I lifted weights. And it only takes 10 sets of pushups, 9 sets of pullups, 3 sets of dips, 3 sets of handstands, 3 sets of hanging knee raises and some gymnastic holds spread over a week to keep me in this shape. Only around 30 minutes a day.

Take it from me if there's one thing in my life that I would have changed then I'd never have picked up a weight. If you don't believe me then read "The Arc of Boxing" by Mike Silver and a whole squad of experts. They'll keep you right.

[luv4boxing84]

Here we go with this argument again. Weights or no weights. Everyone takes a side and sticks to it like its covered in industrial glue.
I'm a firm believer that you can be in shape, strong, and fast using calisthenics. I do not believe weights are bad though. You just have to know how to use whatever system you do the right way.
Vertical Jumping is won of the best ways to measure explosive ability. It takes strength delivered at a very fast speed. If all you do is weight lift, you will have a weak vertical jump. However if all you do is basic calisthenics you will also have a weak vertical.
However, olympic lifters, who train at heavy weights moved at explosive speeds, have massive vertical jumps. Better than NBA players. They are also very flexible do to the nature of the lift.
And on the other side is Kadour Ziani with his freakish vertical jump ability, and all he does is stretching and calisthenics. But he does not do your normal pushup pull up and situp routine. He does strange looking calisthenics that are all about core stability and body control.
Your experience sounds typical of many lifters I know, who lift heavy and box and become injured. I was the same way once. Now I do many sport specific lifts, focus on the posterior chain, and do lots of unusual lifts and even calisthenics to improve stabilizer muscles and body control. I also bench press 270 at a body weight of 160. And I can say that I have never been, faster, stronger, more flexible or healthier than I am now.
It just has to be done right, and conventional lifting is not right. Neither is conventional calisthenics. Although Calisthenics is safer. You just have to ignore the "experts" in the ****zines and look at the real science. Those ****zines are based of weight lifting knowledge from the 80's. New science proves it all to be bull.
When I did calesthenics I was weak, slow, but had good body control. Since I began lifting years ago, every thing has improved.

[Walt Liquor]

I have been boxing for 11 years now and the first three all i did was 15-20 reps of everything. After reading that the fastest man in the world at the time, Michael Johnson, power lifted i switched. For a long time i did power lifting, along side my boxing training and I gained nothing but speed and power. Never once did i feel it effected my endurance like everyone claims.
Now I have switched to a lot of olympic lifting. The clean and jerk, and the snatch. And I have seen another big jump in speed, power and balance. I'm 160 and I hit harder than any heavy weight in my gym. Don't listen to this high rep crap that gets tossed around. Look up some scientific studies on the net about olympic lifting, plyometrics and power lifting. It will put you ten steps ahead of everyone else doing endless body weight push ups and high rep lifts with weights my little sister could man handle.

This dude is right. I would also add that barbell circuts (no rest between exercises) are a great way to add power and speed. An example would be to start with about 10 or 15 on each side. Get in a rack. Do sets of 5 of the following exercises: hammer curls, deadlifts, upright rows, snatch from floor to shoulder, shoulder press, behind the back squats. Do 3-5 sets, whatever you can handle. From there, you can change up. Throw in some back and different legs like jumps squats to the routine.

Make sure you do heavy powerlifting days but make sure someone checks your form.

[TheNegation]

This dude is right. I would also add that barbell circuts (no rest between exercises) are a great way to add power and speed. An example would be to start with about 10 or 15 on each side. Get in a rack. Do sets of 5 of the following exercises: hammer curls, deadlifts, upright rows, snatch from floor to shoulder, shoulder press, behind the back squats. Do 3-5 sets, whatever you can handle. From there, you can change up. Throw in some back and different legs like jumps squats to the routine.

Make sure you do heavy powerlifting days but make sure someone checks your form.

How exactly do you perform Barbell Hammer Curls?

Anyway, BB Complexes are very beneficial. I use them as finishers at the very end of a workout. They REALLY get your heart-rate up.

Try this one

Deadlift
Bent Row
Hang Clean
Push Press
Back Squat

2 sets of 10 reps each

[hateinyaeyes32]

I lift weights 5 days out of the week and boxing everyday... my routine for lifting

Mondays- Biceps/Back
Tuesdays- Legs/Abs
Wednesday- Chest/Triceps
Thursday- Shoulders/Traps
Friday- Biceps/Back