Cycling + Rower - Over 50 (old bastard)

[WonderMonkey]

Hello! I've over 50 (53), been active most of my life, sparred here and there, and had one internal Fight Night type thing. One reason I've only sparred "here and there" and had one fight is that traditional conditioning does not agree with my knees. I've had two cleanouts and meet with my ortho guy tomorrow to see if I need another. With all of that, running/jogging and variations of it are out. I CAN spar, do mitts, work the bag, etc. Lateral to the right is painful but if I limit it to just the sparring, mitts and bag work, I'm good. Going round and round the ring laterally for conditioning is also out.

For Masters boxing, there is typically a max of 2-minute rounds, and always 1-minute rest between. Therefore I train for 3 minutes, 1-minute rest.

So .... what I'm thinking of doing is using my road bike and rower to try and get the typical morning base miles in. And yes, I know that biking and rowing isn't running, but since I'm not going to run, I have to do the best I can. I'm going to work my way up to 20 miles on the bike, M W Fri and rower for rounds on Tue and Thurs.

Bike - First I'd work to get my miles up to 20, which I'm almost there. Once there I'll start to do intervals and work until I do three minutes on and one minute off. Usually, intervals on the bike aren't that long, but I'll reduce the effort until I can do 3 on and 1 off and then increase intensity over time.

Rower - I'll work my way to doing triple rounds, which is 9, and again do 3 minutes on and 1 off.

The above gets me work Monday through Friday, and I'll end up doing a longer ride on Saturday, maybe 50 or 60 miles.

Later in the day, M-F I'll do shadowboxing daily, some weights to correct some imbalances I have, and spar twice a week. However, this post is about those base miles that many get with the morning runs.

Thoughts? My plan is just what I've come up with to avoid the pain of running and having my knees replaced before I they HAVE to be.

I'd love your input. Thanks.

[ShoulderRoll]

That seems like a lot of biking. Never tried it myself so I don't know if that's a good volume or not, but I'd be curious to hear what results you notice in your wind when sparring or fighting.

[markusmod]

I do a lot of biking, but not on a real bike. Most of it is on my gym bike.

[BattlingNelson]

What kind of rower do you use?

[War Room]

Hello! I've over 50 (53), been active most of my life, sparred here and there, and had one internal Fight Night type thing. One reason I've only sparred "here and there" and had one fight is that traditional conditioning does not agree with my knees. I've had two cleanouts and meet with my ortho guy tomorrow to see if I need another. With all of that, running/jogging and variations of it are out. I CAN spar, do mitts, work the bag, etc. Lateral to the right is painful but if I limit it to just the sparring, mitts and bag work, I'm good. Going round and round the ring laterally for conditioning is also out.

For Masters boxing, there is typically a max of 2-minute rounds, and always 1-minute rest between. Therefore I train for 3 minutes, 1-minute rest.

So .... what I'm thinking of doing is using my road bike and rower to try and get the typical morning base miles in. And yes, I know that biking and rowing isn't running, but since I'm not going to run, I have to do the best I can. I'm going to work my way up to 20 miles on the bike, M W Fri and rower for rounds on Tue and Thurs.

Bike - First I'd work to get my miles up to 20, which I'm almost there. Once there I'll start to do intervals and work until I do three minutes on and one minute off. Usually, intervals on the bike aren't that long, but I'll reduce the effort until I can do 3 on and 1 off and then increase intensity over time.

Rower - I'll work my way to doing triple rounds, which is 9, and again do 3 minutes on and 1 off.

The above gets me work Monday through Friday, and I'll end up doing a longer ride on Saturday, maybe 50 or 60 miles.

Later in the day, M-F I'll do shadowboxing daily, some weights to correct some imbalances I have, and spar twice a week. However, this post is about those base miles that many get with the morning runs.

Thoughts? My plan is just what I've come up with to avoid the pain of running and having my knees replaced before I they HAVE to be.

I'd love your input. Thanks.

Walking is better than biking or rowing. Burns more calories. You won't get endurance from biking or rowing. If you want endurance, eliptical if yur knee can handle it and obviously jumping rope if you can handle it.

[War Room]

I'd be curious to hear what results you notice in your wind when sparring or fighting.

Zero. I did loads of biking when I competed and my trainer made it crysal clear there would be no imact. Of course, he was right. I had lost my license and had to bike 15-20 miles each way to the gym 5 days a week. The only time I got a workout was mountain biking technical trails and his knee ain't doing that. I never got wind from that though either.

[BattlingNelson]

Walking is better than biking or rowing. Burns more calories. You won't get endurance from biking or rowing.

you haven’t got the slightest idea what you’re talking about.

[Boxfan83]

Hello! I've over 50 (53), been active most of my life, sparred here and there, and had one internal Fight Night type thing. One reason I've only sparred "here and there" and had one fight is that traditional conditioning does not agree with my knees. I've had two cleanouts and meet with my ortho guy tomorrow to see if I need another. With all of that, running/jogging and variations of it are out. I CAN spar, do mitts, work the bag, etc. Lateral to the right is painful but if I limit it to just the sparring, mitts and bag work, I'm good. Going round and round the ring laterally for conditioning is also out.

For Masters boxing, there is typically a max of 2-minute rounds, and always 1-minute rest between. Therefore I train for 3 minutes, 1-minute rest.

So .... what I'm thinking of doing is using my road bike and rower to try and get the typical morning base miles in. And yes, I know that biking and rowing isn't running, but since I'm not going to run, I have to do the best I can. I'm going to work my way up to 20 miles on the bike, M W Fri and rower for rounds on Tue and Thurs.

Bike - First I'd work to get my miles up to 20, which I'm almost there. Once there I'll start to do intervals and work until I do three minutes on and one minute off. Usually, intervals on the bike aren't that long, but I'll reduce the effort until I can do 3 on and 1 off and then increase intensity over time.

Rower - I'll work my way to doing triple rounds, which is 9, and again do 3 minutes on and 1 off.

The above gets me work Monday through Friday, and I'll end up doing a longer ride on Saturday, maybe 50 or 60 miles.

Later in the day, M-F I'll do shadowboxing daily, some weights to correct some imbalances I have, and spar twice a week. However, this post is about those base miles that many get with the morning runs.

Thoughts? My plan is just what I've come up with to avoid the pain of running and having my knees replaced before I they HAVE to be.

I'd love your input. Thanks.

Im 37, a few years back I got a horrible case of Plantars fasciitis. I was running about 30miles a week and I was crushed when the podiatrist told me I had to quit running for about a year to fully heal.

Anyways, I tried lots of cardio machines but I missed being outdoors so what I started doing was going on long walks with push up stands and Id set a timer and knock out 25-30 push ups and/or squats. If you think about it, if you set a 6 min timer and go on an hour walk thats 250-300 pushups. Id walk with my chick so when Id stop to do push ups shed keep walking so when i was done Id have to briskly walk to catch up.

I always thought of it as an old man workout but trust me, u will feel it. And just to add, it did take about a full year to recover, stubbornly throughout the year id try to run and bam! Plantars fasciitis cameback!! Now Ive realized I can get just as good of a workout maxing out my runs at 3miles, no mas!

[4truth]

Sounds like you have some hard miles on the odometer so It would not surprise me if you had 1 or more bulging discs in you lower back. Be extremely careful with your posture on the rowing machine, it's a great way to pop one of those little time bombs.

[War Room]

you haven’t got the slightest idea what you’re talking about.

Shut the fcuk up moron. I did it, you ain't done shet but run your mouth on a dying website. Go on tread mill for 1 hour, check the calorie counter, then go to a fcuking bike and check the calorie counter for an hour you ****** fcuk.