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    #21
    Originally posted by guzi815 View Post
    To Thread Starter....

    It's understandable why you want to "experiment". Here's what you get (not maybe, but "will get") for that quick "shortcut"
    You should have stopped typing right here. You will not be guaranteed any of those side effects. People have used AAS without experiencing any of those side effects

    1) ***** ****
    Gynecomastia only occurs when Androgens convert to Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. Not all steroids convert to estrogen so again it's not guaranteed Secondly Gynecomastia can be prevented with proper Post Cycle Therapy

    2) a skinny little ****
    This is another ******ed comment that comes from people with ZERO knowledge. Your **** can't shrink. It's impossible. The only way your **** can shrink is if its cut off, which, yours should be so you can't spread your dumbass seed.

    Your testicles atrophy due to HPTA shutdown from excess "foreign" hormones. Your body is getting it form another source, it has no reason to produce it so it shuts down.

    Your balls retain their size again with proper Post Cycle Therapy

    3) baldness
    Another thing that is completely untrue. It's not guaranteed. Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary, if it runs in your family you have a hugh chance of it happening on cycle. Other than that it can happen when you dosing AAS too high. AKA Abusing

    4) uncontrollable rage outbursts
    Most steroids increase aggressiveness, but these so called rages are a myth and as human being we have the ability to control ourselves.


    5) short lifespan
    Nobody has died due to a direct use of steroids. FAIL

    Organ failures occur with irresponsible use. Responsible, intelligent use heeds good results with minimal sides.

    Another "myth" is that you lose everything you cain which is again 100% false. If you lost everything you gained on an 8 week cycle, nobody would use steroids. They'd be useless. If you cycle properly, eat right, train hard and continue to train hard after use, it's not unfathomable to keep 85-90% of your gains


    You are a ****ing idiot. Please don't post about Steroids because you know nothing at all.



    I suggest you try to reach your potential naturally first, before using AAS.

    But if you are going to use them. Go with Injectables. It's easier on your liver and the side effects are minimal.

    Orals have to survive the first pass through the liver and have more side effects.
    Last edited by TheNegation; 08-03-2009, 09:51 PM.

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      #22
      a candle that allways burns its brightest will not burn as long. he said shortened life span not death and im sure it will shorten your life span. just like a cig takes 7 mins off your life im sure some steroids takes more then just 7 mins i mean look at arnold (62) compared to jack la lane (95)

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        #23
        I do not/will not ever screw around with hormones, pro-hormones, or steroids. That **** works on your body's endocrine system and I don't wanna risk that type of thing. Lift hard, lift heavy, eat a lot. 30mins-1hr is plenty of time for hitting the gym. You can cut it short and work on 3/4 day splits or full body routines, taking longer. Steroids have many risks as stated by others, gyno, acne, testical shrinking, etc. Stay natural IMO, you can use other supplements and still be natural es: Protein, BCAA, Creatine, Multi, etc.

        Just don't do that stuff man.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Wanderlei_Silva View Post
          You should have stopped typing right here. You will not be guaranteed any of those side effects. People have used AAS without experiencing any of those side effects



          Gynecomastia only occurs when Androgens convert to Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. Not all steroids convert to estrogen so again it's not guaranteed Secondly Gynecomastia can be prevented with proper Post Cycle Therapy



          This is another ******ed comment that comes from people with ZERO knowledge. Your **** can't shrink. It's impossible. The only way your **** can shrink is if its cut off, which, yours should be so you can't spread your dumbass seed.

          Your testicles atrophy due to HPTA shutdown from excess "foreign" hormones. Your body is getting it form another source, it has no reason to produce it so it shuts down.

          Your balls retain their size again with proper Post Cycle Therapy



          Another thing that is completely untrue. It's not guaranteed. Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary, if it runs in your family you have a hugh chance of it happening on cycle. Other than that it can happen when you dosing AAS too high. AKA Abusing



          Most steroids increase aggressiveness, but these so called rages are a myth and as human being we have the ability to control ourselves.




          Nobody has died due to a direct use of steroids. FAIL

          Organ failures occur with irresponsible use. Responsible, intelligent use heeds good results with minimal sides.

          Another "myth" is that you lose everything you cain which is again 100% false. If you lost everything you gained on an 8 week cycle, nobody would use steroids. They'd be useless. If you cycle properly, eat right, train hard and continue to train hard after use, it's not unfathomable to keep 85-90% of your gains


          You are a ****ing idiot. Please don't post about Steroids because you know nothing at all.



          I suggest you try to reach your potential naturally first, before using AAS.

          But if you are going to use them. Go with Injectables. It's easier on your liver and the side effects are minimal.

          Orals have to survive the first pass through the liver and have more side effects.
          Lyle Alzado. If you do not know who that "WAS", you're too immature. youngin, you should do some research.
          Last edited by guzi815; 08-04-2009, 07:47 PM.

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            #25
            i used to be real skinny too and started off slow but thats how it is. my friend never lifted and he's skinny as well and when he came to do shoulders with me one time he couldnt even military 25lbs in each hand. how long have you been lifting and whats your routine look like? what is your rep and sets as well. lifting heavy isnt necessarily going to give you the quickest results. you have to lift within a set and rep range for muscle building. body builders are strong but not that strong. the muscles are for sure majority of the time. yeah they can lift big weights as well but look at the rep and set range they can do it for. ronnie coleman does 3-5 sets 8-12reps+ for his routines. i do 4x10 myself. creatine isnt bad for you unless you are really any sort of side effects on yourself. use supplements as directed. steroids has no actual case studies done because that would involve human testing which would pretty much be illegal. watch bigger stronger faster documentary it will shed some light on steroids. If you look at what they say about the side effects it says "MAY" cause blah blah blah. you dont need steroids and you dont need supplements. supplements are used to surpass what you cant do naturally and you havent even gotten passed 5% of what you could achieve naturally. stop trying to find an easy way out and go do work.

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              #26
              Originally posted by guzi815 View Post
              Lyle Azado. If you do not know who that "WAS", you're too immature. youngin, you should do some research.
              Lyle Alzado. You mean the football player for the Raiders that died due to a brain tumor which his own doctor said had nothing to do with his use of steroids?

              No. Who is he?

              Idiot. You don't know ****. You buy into the bull**** and scare tactics of the 11 o'clock news who report on steroids without a single shred of proof to back up their claims.

              If steroids are so bad and kill people why haven't all bodybuilders, people with AIDS and HIV, people with muscle wasting diseases, people who want to live a more fulfilling life by using doctor prescribed testosterone, died as a result?

              You are and idiot. Don't comment on this subject.
              Last edited by TheNegation; 08-04-2009, 07:43 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Wanderlei_Silva View Post
                You should have stopped typing right here. You will not be guaranteed any of those side effects. People have used AAS without experiencing any of those side effects



                Gynecomastia only occurs when Androgens convert to Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. Not all steroids convert to estrogen so again it's not guaranteed Secondly Gynecomastia can be prevented with proper Post Cycle Therapy



                This is another ******ed comment that comes from people with ZERO knowledge. Your **** can't shrink. It's impossible. The only way your **** can shrink is if its cut off, which, yours should be so you can't spread your dumbass seed.

                Your testicles atrophy due to HPTA shutdown from excess "foreign" hormones. Your body is getting it form another source, it has no reason to produce it so it shuts down.

                Your balls retain their size again with proper Post Cycle Therapy



                Another thing that is completely untrue. It's not guaranteed. Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary, if it runs in your family you have a hugh chance of it happening on cycle. Other than that it can happen when you dosing AAS too high. AKA Abusing



                Most steroids increase aggressiveness, but these so called rages are a myth and as human being we have the ability to control ourselves.




                Nobody has died due to a direct use of steroids. FAIL

                Organ failures occur with irresponsible use. Responsible, intelligent use heeds good results with minimal sides.

                Another "myth" is that you lose everything you cain which is again 100% false. If you lost everything you gained on an 8 week cycle, nobody would use steroids. They'd be useless. If you cycle properly, eat right, train hard and continue to train hard after use, it's not unfathomable to keep 85-90% of your gains


                You are a ****ing idiot. Please don't post about Steroids because you know nothing at all.



                I suggest you try to reach your potential naturally first, before using AAS.

                But if you are going to use them. Go with Injectables. It's easier on your liver and the side effects are minimal.

                Orals have to survive the first pass through the liver and have more side effects.


                [] Steroid use and death

                Alzado is probably most remembered today for being one of the first major U.S. sports figures to admit using . In the last years of his life, as he battled against the that eventually caused his death at the age of 43, Alzado asserted that his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness, but every single one of his physicians stated it could not possibly be true, and that while steroids do have harsh side effects, they were not the cause of his brain cancer. According to some reports, Alzado was using natural growth hormone, harvested from human corpses, as opposed to synthetic growth hormones. However, shortly before his death, Alzado recounted his steroid abuse in an article in . He said:
                I started taking anabolic steroids in 1969 and never stopped. It was addicting, mentally addicting. Now I'm sick, and I'm scared. Ninety percent of the athletes I know are on the stuff. We're not born to be 300 lbs or jump 30 ft. But all the time I was taking steroids, I knew they were making me play better. I became very violent on the field and off it. I did things only crazy people do. Once a guy sideswiped my car and I beat the hell out of him. Now look at me. My hair's gone, I wobble when I walk and have to hold on to someone for support, and I have trouble remembering things. My last wish? That no one else ever dies this way."


                [] Steroid use and death

                Alzado is probably most remembered today for being one of the first major U.S. sports figures to admit using . In the last years of his life, as he battled against the that eventually caused his death at the age of 43, Alzado asserted that his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness, but every single one of his physicians stated it could not possibly be true, and that while steroids do have harsh side effects, they were not the cause of his brain cancer. According to some reports, Alzado was using natural growth hormone, harvested from human corpses, as opposed to synthetic growth hormones. However, shortly before his death, Alzado recounted his steroid abuse in an article in . He said:
                I started taking anabolic steroids in 1969 and never stopped. It was addicting, mentally addicting. Now I'm sick, and I'm scared. Ninety percent of the athletes I know are on the stuff. We're not born to be 300 lbs or jump 30 ft. But all the time I was taking steroids, I knew they were making me play better. I became very violent on the field and off it. I did things only crazy people do. Once a guy sideswiped my car and I beat the hell out of him. Now look at me. My hair's gone, I wobble when I walk and have to hold on to someone for support, and I have trouble remembering things. My last wish? That no one else ever dies this way."

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by guzi815 View Post


                  [] Steroid use and death

                  Alzado is probably most remembered today for being one of the first major U.S. sports figures to admit using . In the last years of his life, as he battled against the that eventually caused his death at the age of 43, Alzado asserted that his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness, but every single one of his physicians stated it could not possibly be true, and that while steroids do have harsh side effects, they were not the cause of his brain cancer. According to some reports, Alzado was using natural growth hormone, harvested from human corpses, as opposed to synthetic growth hormones. However, shortly before his death, Alzado recounted his steroid abuse in an article in . He said:
                  I started taking anabolic steroids in 1969 and never stopped. It was addicting, mentally addicting. Now I'm sick, and I'm scared. Ninety percent of the athletes I know are on the stuff. We're not born to be 300 lbs or jump 30 ft. But all the time I was taking steroids, I knew they were making me play better. I became very violent on the field and off it. I did things only crazy people do. Once a guy sideswiped my car and I beat the hell out of him. Now look at me. My hair's gone, I wobble when I walk and have to hold on to someone for support, and I have trouble remembering things. My last wish? That no one else ever dies this way."


                  [] Steroid use and death

                  Alzado is probably most remembered today for being one of the first major U.S. sports figures to admit using . In the last years of his life, as he battled against the that eventually caused his death at the age of 43, Alzado asserted that his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness, but every single one of his physicians stated it could not possibly be true, and that while steroids do have harsh side effects, they were not the cause of his brain cancer. According to some reports, Alzado was using natural growth hormone, harvested from human corpses, as opposed to synthetic growth hormones. However, shortly before his death, Alzado recounted his steroid abuse in an article in . He said:
                  I started taking anabolic steroids in 1969 and never stopped. It was addicting, mentally addicting. Now I'm sick, and I'm scared. Ninety percent of the athletes I know are on the stuff. We're not born to be 300 lbs or jump 30 ft. But all the time I was taking steroids, I knew they were making me play better. I became very violent on the field and off it. I did things only crazy people do. Once a guy sideswiped my car and I beat the hell out of him. Now look at me. My hair's gone, I wobble when I walk and have to hold on to someone for support, and I have trouble remembering things. My last wish? That no one else ever dies this way."
                  LOL you just owned yourself. Look at the bolded part!!!!!


                  If you actually read this you would realize he started and never stopped taking steroids. This is call abusing, not intelligent use.

                  Abusing steroids will obviously have more detrimental side effects that someone who uses them responsibly.

                  But nowhere on a credible source does it say that he died from using steroids. He ****ed himself up because his dumbass never cycled off, but it didn't kill him. He died from a Brain Tumor.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Wanderlei_Silva View Post
                    Lyle Alzado. You mean the football player for the Raiders that died due to a brain tumor which his own doctor said had nothing to do with his use of steroids?

                    No. Who is he?

                    Idiot. You don't know ****. You buy into the bull**** and scare tactics of the 11 o'clock news who report on steroids without a single shred of proof to back up their claims.

                    If steroids are so bad and kill people why haven't all bodybuilders, people with AIDS and HIV, people with muscle wasting diseases, people who want to live a more fulfilling life by using doctor prescribed testosterone, died as a result?

                    You are and idiot. Don't comment on this subject.
                    right, coming from 21 year old that thinks he knows it all. I don't ever recall disrespecting you, Silva. I ain't mad at you, you can call people Idiots, ******, say what you'd like dude, look pretty for the camara.

                    I seen alot of guys just like you, pee in thier pants, couldn't last two days in Southeastern Afghanistan. When you're ready to play a real mans game I got an extra pair of boots and ACU's....Sticks and Stones....a real man's game, these guys would love to put a bullet in your head. Come on down tough guy, enlist. First thing I show is RESPECT.

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                      #30
                      And don't even get me started on wrestlers. My friend was in the pro wrestling business and believe me, steroids aren't the only thing floating around.

                      *******, Speed, Amphetamines, Marijuana, Hard Liquor, Painkillers, Sedatives, Muscle Relaxants.

                      Steroids are the least of concern among Pro Wreslters

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