Can Abdominal muscles be worked out everyday or would that be overtraining?

[mr tricky]

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dont lisen to julio,

if you do your sit ups properly you will feel you stomach really aching and strugle to do 50-75,

forget 400, of this and 200 of that ect........thats for his imagination,

[JulioCesaChavez]

dont lisen to julio,

if you do your sit ups properly you will feel you stomach really aching and strugle to do 50-75,

forget 400, of this and 200 of that ect........thats for his imagination,

Sure it is! That's why many pro's including national, continental and world champions do such routines. What you just described is a bum's workout and you will NOT find it in here:



A great book and I recommend it to all who want to get FAR, and not the bums. It will give you a proper idea of what needs to be done, and not limiting beliefs based on SPECULATION! I've recently added medicine ball to my routine too, and it has done me good as I got to the point where I could no longer feel a burn! if the htread starter continues he can also get to that point. I always have abs because I always do what you need to do.

50-75 is **** all, just go to a gym and you'll see normal people do more than that. I even know people with big bellies who do more than that. Fuck that, I even know a girl who does 700 a day! OMFG, do you honestly think you can do 50-75 everyday and you won't eventually get use to it and need to build it up?

[kenso]

sigh.....


stronglifts.com for reliable information.

[JulioCesaChavez]

is probably alot better if you want to get somewhere. I am glad you mentioned that website, because everything I say and all my tips can be easily referenced such as Spartan website or Todd's books. I can't post all references on here but if anyone wants more info just PM me! I did a degree course in Sports and Exercise too. There is always difference of opinions in any field, but I can back ALL of mine up with expert proof not hearsay.

[DJ QUIK]

I was expecting something ******ed like that from the forum bum who can't even be arsed doing his stretches! If I am a fake boxer, i will take that as a compliment because the hard work makes it easier for me in the ring. You can be as REAL as you want REAL boxer, and lick the canvas like your real fighter hero in your avatar, lol. If that is a REAL fighter, I'll pass

This is pure bull****, and evidence of the limited belief system that holds so many back. There are many pro's who do MORE than that, so you saying it is not possible to do that many corectly is dumb as ****. Doing them in hundredfs is not even that hard! Fatso's think it is and stick to doing sets of 10's and 20's but surprise surprise they get NOWHERE.


That is exactly why I said he should build the quantity up GRADUALLY over time. There is no need to rusgh to get to high levels of fitness, so long as you are taking yourself to the limit. Build it up in a reasonabvle time frame as expected, but soreness doesn't necessarily mean overtraining unless it is extremely bad. All athletes experience soreness after training. If they avoided training to soreness levels, they would never get fit enough in time for events and competitions!

julio your death has become the sole purpose of my existance. i wont stop until your head is on a pole you pig. i plan on beating the piss outta u then decapitation your skull on my front lawn to prove my point your foreign pice of trash!!

[Equilibrium]

The short answer to your question would be: Yes.

The long answer:

It depends, if you are just starting to train. In that case, start slowly, going from not training to training like a mad man won't do you any good. You need to let your body rest sometimes.

But after a while you will be able to work your abs out every day without even being sore. Your muscles get stronger and more endurant over time and eventually doing crunches and sit ups will be like walking.

Hope it helped.

[Landon S]

Julio- I dont completely disagree but the type of routine your describing is very limited. For starters there is no work for your obliques. If you are doing sets of 100-200 your body is no longer challenged by that movement. Your body has adapted to that specific exercise and you wont get any stronger. By varying exercises and reps you will gain much much more.

You should be doing exercises that are more difficult once you hit a number of reps like 30 or 50 so your STRENGTH keeps increasing. Changing exercises (harder exercises like v-ups or standing rollouts will require lower reps) all the time makes sure you dont just get 'good' at crunches or any particular exercise, your just plain getting stronger and more enduring. The thing is, your not training to be able to do 100 of this or 200 of that, your training to fight. So vary the exercises.

If you enjoy high rep work then consider doing circuits (but try not to forget your obliques eh ;-) like

5 standing rollouts
10 heavy incline russian twists per side
15 V-ups
15 weighted back extensions (BTW dont cause a muscle imbalance by neglecting your lower back)
50+ Chinnies till burn

Repeat 5 times (rest as needed 1:00-1:30 ish)

That routine WILL kick your ass. Your strength AND endurance is worked hard. And damn near every angle your abs can move or function is hit hard. And it is all adds up to alot of reps for the rep mongers among us. Julio, just try it once and hopefully youll realize this style of training is far better than a routine based on a handful of exercises.

[ACHlLLES]

I only do crunches because I heard that situps aren't healthy to do because the majority of people who do them, do them incorrectly.

[Equilibrium]

Julio- I dont completely disagree but the type of routine your describing is very limited. For starters there is no work for your obliques. If you are doing sets of 100-200 your body is no longer challenged by that movement. Your body has adapted to that specific exercise and you wont get any stronger. By varying exercises and reps you will gain much much more.

You should be doing exercises that are more difficult once you hit a number of reps like 30 or 50 so your STRENGTH keeps increasing. Changing exercises (harder exercises like v-ups or standing rollouts will require lower reps) all the time makes sure you dont just get 'good' at crunches or any particular exercise, your just plain getting stronger and more enduring. The thing is, your not training to be able to do 100 of this or 200 of that, your training to fight. So vary the exercises.

If you enjoy high rep work then consider doing circuits (but try not to forget your obliques eh ;-) like

5 standing rollouts
10 heavy incline russian twists per side
15 V-ups
15 weighted back extensions (BTW dont cause a muscle imbalance by neglecting your lower back)
50+ Chinnies till burn

Repeat 5 times (rest as needed 1:00-1:30 ish)

That routine WILL kick your ass. Your strength AND endurance is worked hard. And damn near every angle your abs can move or function is hit hard. And it is all adds up to alot of reps for the rep mongers among us. Julio, just try it once and hopefully youll realize this style of training is far better than a routine based on a handful of exercises.

Good stuffs. What are chinnies and heavy incline russian twists?

Right now i do this for my abs:

3 x 40 sit ups
3 x 40 crunches
2 x 20 brining my knees to my mid section while holding myself on the pull up bar, alternate from side to side to work my obliques

The other one i have no idea what its called. Basically i lay on my front with my upper body not touching anything and i do what i would describe as inversed push ups. 2 x 20 of that.



By the way, don't try to convince that guy of anything. He used to say the most important thing in boxing is to do 1000 fist push-ups a day.

Bottom line, he is right, we are wrong.

[JulioCesaChavez]

julio your death has become the sole purpose of my existance. i wont stop until your head is on a pole you pig. i plan on beating the piss outta u then decapitation your skull on my front lawn to prove my point your foreign pice of trash!!

You are a funny looking guy, and my answer is you are most welcome to TRY!

Boxing Club Michelis
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OR

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13015 Marseille
France

After you get beaten up, at least you can enjoy the sun and fit birds (you may have to pay fatso).

The short answer to your question would be: Yes.

The long answer:

It depends, if you are just starting to train. In that case, start slowly, going from not training to training like a mad man won't do you any good. You need to let your body rest sometimes.

But after a while you will be able to work your abs out every day without even being sore. Your muscles get stronger and more endurant over time and eventually doing crunches and sit ups will be like walking.

Hope it helped.

He may suck big penises like the deformed Arturo Gatti, but this time the man is telling the truth! As I said before, you need to build it up slowly until you are doing prime RJJ routines like me. When I was a teenager I was slack and basically started my circuit work from scratch as I was absolutely **** at them even though I had blinding speed and power in sparring. It took me a year to go from 10 squats 10 press ups and 10 sit ups, to 1000 knuckle push ups per day, 1200 reps on the abs and around 300 various squat/thrust/burpee exercises. Through hard work, PATIENCE and determination, anyone can get there eventually! The 1000 press ups are excellent fro your punch output/workrate.

Landon S, I did not have time to elaborate but some of the crunches and sit ups I do are the twist variations for the obliques. Plus recently my trainer and I have added some medicine ball exercises to my routine, including ****ing the ball on the obliques for one round. Good job you reminded us all by bringing that up because tough obliques are important in boxing!