Does Lifting Weights effect handspeed?

[Rafael Benitez]

Excessive weight trianing is for bums! Please refer to above post.

[fraidycat]

Weights take the snap out of your muscles and make you slow. They tighten them up. They don't give you power just strength. Two different things. Punching power comes from technique nature and timing. A boxers punch mainly comes from hip so how would benching suddenly add significant amounts of power? Weights are a gimmick. It is make believe bollocks sold to bums who don't have power and want to believe it is in their control. Sounds good but they never do become decent punchers! Just slower bulkier bums! I don't know a single fast fighter that does alot of weights. Some of them use it as a supplement but most decent fighters stick to the good ol' press ups and pull ups. I also know fo some people who want the easy route and do weights because press ups and pull ups are too hard! That is why they work better.

This was a ridiculous post.

Weights are make-believe? They take the snap out of your punches? I will restate this: I have never found a sport in which the average practitioner knows so alarmingly little about exercise. I know sabre fencers with a better grasp on physiology and training principles. That's just sad, people. Seriously. In a day and age where "race walkers" take whey protein and hit the weights, you're cutting your own wrists by refusing to adopt modern training knowledge.

"Yeah, but boxing is an old sport. We don't need newfangled training methods." Go tell that to the guy doing the javelin throw.

For starters, there's more to boxing than just punching. I appreciate that this thread is about handspeed, but to say that weightlifting has no place in boxing is like saying that modern nutritional science has no place in boxing.

Overall body strength is needed in the ring. Slipping and weaving, clinching, and explosive movements like changes of direction, closing the gap, and the myriad of tricks that are required to get off the ropes, are all improved by weight-bearing exercise. Explosive physical strength, the type you get from weight-bearing exercise, gives you options in the ring. A bench press may not help your punch, but having a decent squat press makes a HELL of a difference when your opponent has you on the turnbuckle. (Hint: crouch, cover, explode up.) A good deadlift will make enduring clinches a lot easier, and may even dissuade your opponent from trying it more than once. Anyone ever have your opponent clinch and then pull you forward so you have to lever against him with your lower back, to tire you out? Imagine being the one who makes HIM tired when he tries it.

I could go on for pages. But I won't. Maybe I should just write a book. "How to Kick Ass at Boxing through Application of Fundamental Exercise Principles."

[BennyST]

Alright cool, i thought so! BTW, BennyST where in Aus are you? do you train/fight?
Very good helpful info

Hey mate, I'm in Vic. What about you?

Weights are a gimmick. It is make believe bollocks sold to bums who don't have power and want to believe it is in their control.

Every post I've read of yours is utterly absurd. I just hope you're not an actual boxer (well, if you're an actual boxer, I care not because I'm sure you're getting the crap kicked out of you) or, more importantly, a trainer. Try learning something about the things you talk about before you open you obviously overly large mouth. It may help you in life.

[BennyST]

Excessive weight trianing is for bums! Please refer to above post.

You really are a little slow aren't you? No one is advocating excessive weight lifting. We are not body builders or weight lifters. We are boxers. You seem to think someone is asking whether everyone here should start becoming weight lifters or body builders.

Proper weight training as a cross training exercise can most certainly increase the benefits of your boxing training (Get that? Boxing training. Not weight lifting.) and build up areas that would take longer and be less effective doing only pull ups and press ups as you advocated.

Go tell the 43 year old Bernard Hopkins that modern training techniques are ridiculous and that he should stop everything he does and just go back to press ups, pull ups, sit ups and push ups. Tell me how that goes for you? Actually, don't bother, because I know for a fact that he would tell you to "**** off". Before you open your mouth, just try thinking for one, or even two seconds.

[sukhenkoy]

These kinds of threads are getting old. "How weights affect boxing."

It all comes down to some arguing that they are beneficial, and others arguing that they aren't. Let people do their own ****, and stop trying to force information on others when they don't really care.

Can weights be helpful? Yes. Can they be harmful? Yes.

[BennyST]

Let people do their own ****, and stop trying to force information on others when they don't really care.

Hey genius, when someone asks for advice on a boxing forum about weights, some people are going to give it. That is the whole point of this thing! It is given, and I'm sure taken, with a grain of salt.

No one is trying to force information on anyone. The internet, and forums in particular, are great resources (and quite often terrible) to get a myriad of information from and then make up your own mind about what to do with it.

So before saying people don't care and that everyone should let everyone do their own '****', try reading the thread title. It's what a forum is for!

[sukhenkoy]

Hey genius, when someone asks for advice on a boxing forum about weights, some people are going to give it. That is the whole point of this thing! It is given, and I'm sure taken, with a grain of salt.

No one is trying to force information on anyone. The internet, and forums in particular, are great resources (and quite often terrible) to get a myriad of information from and then make up your own mind about what to do with it.

So before saying people don't care and that everyone should let everyone do their own '****', try reading the thread title. It's what a forum is for!

I understand that. I'm saying that most of these threads turn into arguments, and I think that its simply best to let people do their own things when they do turn into arguments.

Obviously the original poster is looking for information, and you're providing him with it. That's good.

The problem arises when you all start arguing with one another, instead of addressing the original poster.

Genius