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    Lead Four Question - with a Short Bag Vid

    This may be a fairly advanced question.

    I'm a southpaw, I have been working up a strong-side hook (Four punch) lead, particularly to use when I'm stepping right (out of the way of my opponent's cross.) I've been getting tagged with a left hook when I throw this punch, and now I know why -- I took some video of myself on the bag this morning. I drop my jab hand to pull it back and do the JKD thing, to try and get more power behind the hook. BAD habit, I know. Also, I'm left-eye dominant, so I drop the left hand before I throw the left hook to try and eyeball my target a bit more. I'm working on that, too. EDIT: In the freeze-frame I notice that I also throw it as a shovelhook, which works fine as long as I'm moving away from the right cross when I throw it, and have my right (lead) foot outside my opponent's left (lead) foot. Lots of things wrong with this punch.

    I know it’s not a common punch, but does anybody else lead with a strong-side hook (Four?) If so, what are your feet doing? How do you pivot, commit to the Four, and still stay mobile? As a southpaw, if I plant that back (left) foot and pivot on it, I'm suddenly looking down the barrel of his right cross as I return the left hook to my guard.

    How do you get the power behind the lead Four without winding up, scooping it, or cheating it with your jab hand?

    My trainer doesn't like me using this punch, so I can't ask him; I'm working it up as a use-once-per-round-tops dirty trick. (Particularly, because I visited a rival gym closer to me, and their trainers don't teach the strong-side hook AT ALL. Can't wait to meet one of those ****ers in the ring.)

    So here's the vid. Since the numbers count down on this vid, the punch comes up at :13 and :07 on the timer. Below the vid is a freeze-frame.

    Other criticism / comments welcome, of course, but this is mostly about the lead Four.

    Ten thousand points to the first one who solves this for me.



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    Last edited by fraidycat; 06-08-2008, 09:52 PM.

    #2
    u might want to try jabbing to the body first, exagerating ur lean to ur left a little and then standing up with that left hook. it won't be a lead, but it's worth tryin

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      #3
      throwing a rear hook first off leaves you open so i dont try it personally because i will get nailed by a straight left. but if you manage to pull it off good work man

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        #4
        Our gym doesn't teach strong side hook either, easy to counter if you don't have good head movement. But from the video it looks like your punching before you plant the right foot, this doesn't allow you to transfer the weight efficiently and why you look unbalanced directly after the punch. Hope that helps.

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          #5
          Originally posted by aussieboxer2320 View Post
          throwing a rear hook first off leaves you open so i dont try it personally because i will get nailed by a straight left. but if you manage to pull it off good work man
          It only seems to work as a southpaw against an orthodox fighter -- or vice versa -- while moving. The way I have made it work is to be stepping outside of his lead foot, and pulling the hook as I slide the back foot into place. Which is what Salty pointed out; neither foot is planted when the punch lands, so I have to cheat the hell out of it. So here are some points for Salty.

          I've still got ten thousand more for someone who instructs me how to do this correctly. J? Versy? 'Tas? Punchdrunk?

          Anybody?

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