Boxing, the reason why you suck.

[nedcmk1]

"I also will add however that a 20 dollar pr of wrestling shoes could be just as effective."

I have the $20 title shoes lol...... i do agree there, no need for $165 adidas combat boots.

[nedcmk1]

"boxing isn't fighting, for mma you don't need talent but boxing is all talent.
I have seen guys training for years very hard and they still have no footwork, timing, reflexes or speed."


I agree and disagree.

The MMA comparison is a very bad comparison. MMA is a young sport so people at this stage i the game start training very late compared to other sports. As it grows in popularity the talent pool will grow.... and many of the guys lacking natural ability will be weeded out, and it will be based on natural ability.

As for boxing the talent pool is DEEP. How many people in the world box? Millions? out of those million who is going to rise to the top? THOSE WITH INSANE NATURAL ABILITY. Those without it will be washed out. It is too competitive for someone lacking ability to do so.

Some may say "so and so" had no natural ability! Not true. Most likely if he was in your gym he'd be a god. Making the best look like day 1. Its just his competition had more natural ability, or the same but worked harder.

[kenny91]

boxing isn't fighting, for mma you don't need talent but boxing is all talent.
I have seen guys training for years very hard and they still have no footwork, timing, reflexes or speed.

boxing is fightin. Bit more technical yeah, but ur still punching some dude in the head!
And i did say u do need to work at it if u havent got immediate natural talent. Which is true. U can develop talent and it comes down to u as a person whether u r dedicated and how hard u train and whether u can see ur weaknesses and act on them.

[Pork Chop]

I agree that having fancy shoes and custom shorts when you first walk in the gym is going a little bit overboard.

On the other hand, I'm a big guy with kinda small hands.
If i don't have good gloves, I'll bruise a knuckle.
I've done the knuckle pushups, bareknuckle rounds on a duct taped bag, heck even iron palm training.
Truth of the matter is, once you get good form and are really hitting hard, you need knuckle protection.

Same thing goes for sparring gloves- you don't protect your partner, he's gonna end up KO'd or a bloody mess (which a lot of guys actually do intentionally).

Not all gloves protect equally.
Not all gloves fit the same either.
So worrying about which gloves to get makes sense to me.

I've never found a pair of small bag gloves that haven't caused me to bruise a knuckle and i can't remember any that made a nice fist.

Reyes gloves are awesome, but they don't have a good level of padding and they don't fit me at all.

Grant super bag gloves fit me the best, but they are also lacking in the padding department. Their training gloves are a little better padded, but don't fit nicely.

Everlast gloves from the sporting store are actual cr@p for sparring and anyone who says different has no regard for their sparring partners. Their pro line isn't too bad.

Ringside's got some good stuff. I love their IMF Tech training gloves and my buddy's got a pair of 10oz competition gloves that are foam filled - they fit AWESOME and are surprisingly easy on the knuckles.

Ultimate classics are good for super bag gloves; i can't stand their training gloves though.

Title's got some good stuff - their padding's very resilient, but i don't like the fit.

[Pork Chop]

"boxing isn't fighting, for mma you don't need talent but boxing is all talent.
I have seen guys training for years very hard and they still have no footwork, timing, reflexes or speed."


I agree and disagree.

The MMA comparison is a very bad comparison. MMA is a young sport so people at this stage i the game start training very late compared to other sports. As it grows in popularity the talent pool will grow.... and many of the guys lacking natural ability will be weeded out, and it will be based on natural ability.

Well there's the rub... MMA has so many different aspects that unless your "natural talent" is to pick things up very quickly, then I don't see it carrying you THAT far.
Some naturally talented boxers don't have the natural athletic talent to be good wrestlers or muay thai guys. Some wrestlers are actually terrible at submissions.
Each aspect requires a completely different mindset and tools. Look at Fedor Emelianeko. He's quicker than some of the monsters of the heavyweight division but maybe not the quickest, he's got power - but not the most powerful, he's just got a very good brain for the sport. He's good at picking out a gameplan and adapting when something's not working.

I think athletic ability tends to be overrated to tell you the truth.

[twanky1]

Some of you guys are taking this the wrong way. Saftey comes first in boxing, a Pair of 16oz and wraps are all you need if your hitting a bag. As a person who just sprained my wrist on a guys face because i forgot my wraps i strongly advise wrapping them EVERY time.

[twanky1]

The **** who made this thread know nutting about boxing!

Whatever man...There is no need for name calling. How are those Adidas tryguns?

They getting a good workout why you sit at your computer and spill cheetoes all over them? I bet that you have never had a fight, i bet that your one of those guys who walks around with an Everlast shirt on and shadowboxes in public.

Or maybe you have taken 1 too many punches to the head, because the impression i get from that post is that you may be ever so slightly ******ed.

[msagrain]

boxing is fightin. Bit more technical yeah, but ur still punching some dude in the head!
And i did say u do need to work at it if u havent got immediate natural talent. Which is true. U can develop talent and it comes down to u as a person whether u r dedicated and how hard u train and whether u can see ur weaknesses and act on them.

boxing is boxing ......

this is fighting



this is boxing