hey punch drunk or anyone, any weight lifting and supplements that help with boxing?

[juggernautburn]

basically, i want to reach my full potential. i want to have more power, more speed, and i want to know what supplements help. i'm thinking about taking creatine. now i'm not particularly trying to get bigger, i'll let my body do what it wants to do. as a matter of fact, i need to lose fat. i'm thinking leg workout like squats or the equivalent can help. i've actually seen mike tyson doing a squat work out so, help me out. and, is it possible to over do the squats? i guess this is all so general, but that's the thing, i'm just trying to get ideas, not live by your words like it's law.

[Verstyle]

check it out. **** loads of supplements for boxing

[juggernautburn]

check it out. **** loads of supplements for boxing

thanks man, i'll check it out.

[fraidycat]

Squats are excellent for boxing. So are power cleans and deadlifts.

Bodybuilding exercises like bench press, curls, tricep kickbacks, etc. will not help your boxing unless you are exceptionally deficient in one area; these exercises only work a couple of muscles at a time, and serve to isolate muscles to work them harder. This is not what you want to do if you want to lift weights to improve your boxing.

What you want to do, is to train your body to use many muscles in concert. A properly-thrown punch starts in your feet, travels up your legs, through your back, across your shoulders, is accelerated by your abs and hip flexors, and travels down your arm and into your hand. ALL of those muscles have to be strengthened and coordinated, to deliver a proper punch. That coordination makes the difference between a hard punch and a devastating punch. Big guys punch hard. Trained boxers, however, deliver devastating punches -- I'm talking about the kind of punches that make you see fireworks, the kind of punches that end fights -- not because they're stronger (necessarily), but because they're more coordinated. From the beginning, I could outpunch many guys who could outbench me. I think a big part of that comes from my day job, which entails moving and carrying heavy stuff, and lots of construction-type work that uses your whole body. Talk to Versatile2K7; he works summers as a mover. EDIT: Marciano was a bricklayer and Dempsey was a logger. Two small guys who hit like freight trains. Seeing a pattern here?

A properly-performed squat works over 75% of the muscles in your body, from the arches of your feet clear to your neck. So does a power clean, with the added benefit of increasing explosive power and balance. And deadlifts are excellent for back strength, hand strength, and posture. All of these exercises, when coupled with boxing under a knowledgeable trainer, will make you more aware of, and eventually in control of, the muscles you'll need to use to hit well and move gracefully in the ring.

I said it before and I'll stick by it: boxing is like ballet more than it is like football or any brute power sport. Sheer strength is not enough; big muscles are not enough. You need to build coordination, control, endurance, range of motion (flexibility), and balance, as well as strength. You can do this through compound lifts, properly performed, starting with light weights until you get the forms down. Work with a trainer to make sure you're doing the lifts right. Your high school or college coach or a trainer at a good weightlifting gym (not Bally's or some yuppie piece of **** gym, but one where big guys train, ask around) can teach you.

You will also need to box. No amount of weightlifting alone will make you a good puncher.

Good luck.

[phallus]

Squats are excellent for boxing. So are power cleans and deadlifts.

Bodybuilding exercises like bench press, curls, tricep kickbacks, etc. will not help your boxing unless you are exceptionally deficient in one area; these exercises only work a couple of muscles at a time, and serve to isolate muscles to work them harder. This is not what you want to do if you want to lift weights to improve your boxing.

What you want to do, is to train your body to use many muscles in concert. A properly-thrown punch starts in your feet, travels up your legs, through your back, across your shoulders, is accelerated by your abs and hip flexors, and travels down your arm and into your hand. ALL of those muscles have to be strengthened and coordinated, to deliver a proper punch. That coordination makes the difference between a hard punch and a devastating punch. Big guys punch hard. Trained boxers, however, deliver devastating punches -- I'm talking about the kind of punches that make you see fireworks, the kind of punches that end fights -- not because they're stronger (necessarily), but because they're more coordinated. From the beginning, I could outpunch many guys who could outbench me. I think a big part of that comes from my day job, which entails moving and carrying heavy stuff, and lots of construction-type work that uses your whole body. Talk to Versatile2K7; he works summers as a mover. EDIT: Marciano was a bricklayer and Dempsey was a logger. Two small guys who hit like freight trains. Seeing a pattern here?

A properly-performed squat works over 75% of the muscles in your body, from the arches of your feet clear to your neck. So does a power clean, with the added benefit of increasing explosive power and balance. And deadlifts are excellent for back strength, hand strength, and posture. All of these exercises, when coupled with boxing under a knowledgeable trainer, will make you more aware of, and eventually in control of, the muscles you'll need to use to hit well and move gracefully in the ring.

I said it before and I'll stick by it: boxing is like ballet more than it is like football or any brute power sport. Sheer strength is not enough; big muscles are not enough. You need to build coordination, control, endurance, range of motion (flexibility), and balance, as well as strength. You can do this through compound lifts, properly performed, starting with light weights until you get the forms down. Work with a trainer to make sure you're doing the lifts right. Your high school or college coach or a trainer at a good weightlifting gym (not Bally's or some yuppie piece of **** gym, but one where big guys train, ask around) can teach you.

You will also need to box. No amount of weightlifting alone will make you a good puncher.

Good luck.

rocky marciano also used special strength training methods for punching power. he punched a specially made 300 pound heavy bag ( that's why he could move 200+ pound men around the ring with his punches ) and he would stand in a swimming pool neck deep and throw punches for an hour. he also ran backwards up hills wearing his army boots and did his roadwork in his army boots. i was gonna do these things if became a pro boxer because i was also a right handed puncher

[fraidycat]

rocky marciano also used special strength training methods for punching power. he punched a specially made 300 pound heavy bag ( that's why he could move 200+ pound men around the ring with his punches ) and he would stand in a swimming pool neck deep and throw punches for an hour. he also ran backwards up hills wearing his army boots and did his roadwork in his army boots. i was gonna do these things if became a pro boxer because i was also a right handed puncher

Marciano and Dempsey both had unique and hardcore strength training methods once they turned pro, but my point was that they both came from physically demanding trades and were likely strong as hell throughout their entire bodies to start with.

[phallus]

Marciano and Dempsey both had unique and hardcore strength training methods once they turned pro, but my point was that they both came from physically demanding trades and were likely strong as hell throughout their entire bodies to start with.

absolutley, definitley, but not everyone can be in the trades... some guys have to get their strength another way

[eazy_mas]

the difference with fighters today and people general that there is office work and other stuff that people dont really need to use there body much.

the other reason is even in the diet too long time ago people used to eat healthy

but that is what life is changing to