a win. like say if im bobbing and weaving but there hitting my gloves instead of me,but im getting the clean shots. from u guys experience.do judges count the thrown punches as in who won the round??
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Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7 View Posta win. like say if im bobbing and weaving but there hitting my gloves instead of me,but im getting the clean shots. from u guys experience.do judges count the thrown punches as in who won the round??
another thing if the are ahead with 20 points by the end of the round you straight away win.
that is by observing from the Asian games in Doha.
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Originally posted by eazy_mas View Postthere are five judges and there is a button and 3 of the 5 judge if the push the button at the same time it is consider a point.
another thing if the are ahead with 20 points by the end of the round you straight away win.
that is by observing from the Asian games in Doha.
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Yes, it's hit and not get hit. I can't tell you how the referees do it in individual states or regions, but internationally they tend to push the buttons A LOT. Obviously they're looking for clean punches, but the more you push the button, the more half blocked shots are likely to get counted.
This system favours high tempo fighting from long range, since more judges will be able to record a punch. It'll be hard for a guy with your style to succeed in this system... I'd think they score a bit differently (within the same guidelines) in the US, since your amateur boxing is so geared toward going pro?
In a lot of countries, amateur boxing is it's own sport, not just a stepping stone. Looking at the way they scored amateurs a few years ago, and now, quite frankly, I like it a lot better now. Before, it was two rock'em sock'em robots with high guards pounding away, where now it's a lot more athletic. You need to be able to move a lot, throw shots while moving etc.
It takes more (well, a different type, anyway) talent to excel in amateur boxing now, because there's a lot more things you have to be able to do. Before it was just physical strength and a high guard.
I know most of the pro fans are gonna disagree with me, since it's sort of a step away from pro boxing. It'll definitely be harder to adjust to the pro's, coming from the type of boxing that is rewarded in the amateurs,but looking at amateurs in isolation, I think the boxing has gotten much more interesting. It's also a much bigger challenge to train fighters now, but I like that challenge a lot.
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Originally posted by PunchDrunk View PostYes, it's hit and not get hit. I can't tell you how the referees do it in individual states or regions, but internationally they tend to push the buttons A LOT. Obviously they're looking for clean punches, but the more you push the button, the more half blocked shots are likely to get counted.
This system favours high tempo fighting from long range, since more judges will be able to record a punch. It'll be hard for a guy with your style to succeed in this system... I'd think they score a bit differently (within the same guidelines) in the US, since your amateur boxing is so geared toward going pro?
In a lot of countries, amateur boxing is it's own sport, not just a stepping stone. Looking at the way they scored amateurs a few years ago, and now, quite frankly, I like it a lot better now. Before, it was two rock'em sock'em robots with high guards pounding away, where now it's a lot more athletic. You need to be able to move a lot, throw shots while moving etc.
It takes more (well, a different type, anyway) talent to excel in amateur boxing now, because there's a lot more things you have to be able to do. Before it was just physical strength and a high guard.
I know most of the pro fans are gonna disagree with me, since it's sort of a step away from pro boxing. It'll definitely be harder to adjust to the pro's, coming from the type of boxing that is rewarded in the amateurs,but looking at amateurs in isolation, I think the boxing has gotten much more interesting. It's also a much bigger challenge to train fighters now, but I like that challenge a lot.
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Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7 View Postalright thanx. just curious on how they score the shots and i got it thanx. and i gotta change my stuff up alittle.frazier type style for amateurs. so ill be constantly in there faces. throwing combos
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If the bout has computerized scoring systems installed don't know how common it is tho this is how it works.
Computerized Scoring Systems
The winner of an amateur bout is determined by trained judges who count the number of scoring blows thrown by each boxer. A scoring blow is identified with the following five standard criteria:
1. must be thrown with the weight of the body or shoulder
2. must connect with the knuckle-surface of the glove
3. must connect with the opponent in a legal scoring area (the front or sides of the head and/or body above the opponent's beltline)
4. may not be picked, parried, or blocked by the opponent
5. must connect while not infringing a rule
This stringent criteria is difficult to meet, and thus typically results in boxing matches with low scores. All amateur bouts end by one of the following determinations:
1. points (# of scoring blows landed)
2. RSC (Ref stops the contest)
3. RSCH (Ref stops the contest b/c of head blow)
4. retirement (a boxer doesn't return to the match after a rest interval or a coach stops the match)
5. disqualification
6. walkover (oppenent doesnt show up)
7. no contest
8. draw
In the case of points, the most common result of contests, the majority of the three or five judges agree on a winner based on their tally of points that each boxer earned during the bout.
Traditional Scoring
In Traditional Scoring they use something called the "20-point must system"
Each judge watches each round and determines how many scoring blows one boxer had landed over the other. At the end of the round, each judge writes down his/her score on his/her scorecard. The winner of the round automatically receives 20 points. The loser of the round receives one point less for every three scoring blows landed against him/her. Every scoring blow counts as one-third of a point, regardless of the hard it was thrown or even if it resulted in a standing-eight count or KD.
If the red corner landed nine scoring blows more than the blue corner, the score would be 20 (red) to 17 (blue) The points may be rounded up in the case of two scoring blows over the opponent would win the round 20 to 19. If both boxers scored the same number of blows or are only separated by one scoring blow the round is 20 to 20. Also if the ref issues a warning you lose 1 point from your score. If the round was 20-19 and the winner boxer got a warning the round would be 20-20 cause someone MUST have 20 points in a round. At the end of the bout they add up all the points and annouce the winner. If the points are equal then they award it to who they think is the better boxer by ring generalship, effective aggression, and style including defense.
(Copied/Summerized this from a boxing book I have "The Ultimate Boxer" by Christy Halbert)
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Originally posted by Nickman949 View PostIf the bout has computerized scoring systems installed don't know how common it is tho this is how it works.
Computerized Scoring Systems
The winner of an amateur bout is determined by trained judges who count the number of scoring blows thrown by each boxer. A scoring blow is identified with the following five standard criteria:
1. must be thrown with the weight of the body or shoulder
2. must connect with the knuckle-surface of the glove
3. must connect with the opponent in a legal scoring area (the front or sides of the head and/or body above the opponent's beltline)
4. may not be picked, parried, or blocked by the opponent
5. must connect while not infringing a rule
This stringent criteria is difficult to meet, and thus typically results in boxing matches with low scores. All amateur bouts end by one of the following determinations:
1. points (# of scoring blows landed)
2. RSC (Ref stops the contest)
3. RSCH (Ref stops the contest b/c of head blow)
4. retirement (a boxer doesn't return to the match after a rest interval or a coach stops the match)
5. disqualification
6. walkover (oppenent doesnt show up)
7. no contest
8. draw
In the case of points, the most common result of contests, the majority of the three or five judges agree on a winner based on their tally of points that each boxer earned during the bout.
Traditional Scoring
In Traditional Scoring they use something called the "20-point must system"
Each judge watches each round and determines how many scoring blows one boxer had landed over the other. At the end of the round, each judge writes down his/her score on his/her scorecard. The winner of the round automatically receives 20 points. The loser of the round receives one point less for every three scoring blows landed against him/her. Every scoring blow counts as one-third of a point, regardless of the hard it was thrown or even if it resulted in a standing-eight count or KD.
If the red corner landed nine scoring blows more than the blue corner, the score would be 20 (red) to 17 (blue) The points may be rounded up in the case of two scoring blows over the opponent would win the round 20 to 19. If both boxers scored the same number of blows or are only separated by one scoring blow the round is 20 to 20. Also if the ref issues a warning you lose 1 point from your score. If the round was 20-19 and the winner boxer got a warning the round would be 20-20 cause someone MUST have 20 points in a round. At the end of the bout they add up all the points and annouce the winner. If the points are equal then they award it to who they think is the better boxer by ring generalship, effective aggression, and style including defense.
(Copied/Summerized this from a boxing book I have "The Ultimate Boxer" by Christy Halbert)
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